Last night I set a pick & call a "T"

[deecee]

if a player shoves an opponent during a dead ball, or he shoves you the official?

2 different outcomes. If there was no escalation after the shove of the player, just an unsporting T. For shoving me the good ol heave ho.

same action different consequence.

[cdoug]

Speaking of Ts...I had a situation the other night that made me think.

I was across the court and wasn't sure if it came from fans behind V bench or a player (on the bench) so I felt that I couldn't do anything about it. Someone said the F-word in relation to a no call in my P's primary. If I hear it and know it's from the bench but don't know who said it can I just call a "generic" bench T? (No books with me at work.) If not, how do you handle that situation?

[doubleringer]

Originally Posted by cdoug

Speaking of Ts...I had a situation the other night that made me think.

I was across the court and wasn't sure if it came from fans behind V bench or a player (on the bench) so I felt that I couldn't do anything about it. Someone said the F-word in relation to a no call in my P's primary. If I hear it and know it's from the bench but don't know who said it can I just call a "generic" bench T? (No books with me at work.) If not, how do you handle that situation?

You absolutely could, but I would ask how loud it was? If you were the only one that heard it, maybe go to the coach and say, "I heard F*&k from your bench. I'm not sure which player it was, but could you please address this so I don't have to?" Since you don't have definite knowledge of what player said it, this may be a better route to take.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

You absolutely could, but I would ask how loud it was? If you were the only one that heard it, maybe go to the coach and say, "I heard F*&k from your bench. I'm not sure which player it was, but could you please address this so I don't have to?" Since you don't have definite knowledge of what player said it, this may be a better route to take.

Maybe not...

If the player or bench personnel just says the F word by itself it doesnt mean much to me. It all depends what else is said with it and how loud. I dont care if I am the only one who hears something if it is towards my partner and disrespectful, the bench is getting a T. If its just F and I hear it Im not going to say anything to the coach. Sometimes I hear things that I might not like but might be very accepted in that area or culture. As an official I do think I have to put my personal preferences aside to be truly impartial. Do I like some of the music player, NO, do I like it when a school does a pregame prayer, NO. Do i care, NO. I just dont prefer these but they dont have much to do with the game. Cursing is the same, I dont like to hear it on the court, but I do sometimes, and half the time it doesnt need any addressing.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

You absolutely could, but I would ask how loud it was? If you were the only one that heard it, maybe go to the coach and say, "I heard F*&k from your bench. I'm not sure which player it was, but could you please address this so I don't have to?" Since you don't have definite knowledge of what player said it, this may be a better route to take.

Absolutely terrible advice imo.

If a player told you to "f**k off", would you let that go also if you were the only one to hear it?

If you hear it, call it! Period!

And don't make up excuses as to why you shouldn't call it either. That's very telling.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Absolutely terrible advice imo.

If a player told you to "f**k off", would you let that go also if you were the only one to hear it?

If you hear it, call it! Period!

And don't make up excuses as to why you shouldn't call it either. That's very telling.

God is in His Heaven, and all is right with the world.