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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 10:52am
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Was he jumping from the back-court and then landed in the front-court, or just jumped in air and immediately passed it into the frount-court ?

Either way it's a violation, granted.
But, I seem to get more grief from coaches, players, and fans on the one when the offensive player secures the ball in mid-air while jumping from the back-court into the front-court.

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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 10:55am
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Was he jumping from the back-court and then landed in the front-court, or just jumped in air and immediately passed it into the frount-court ?

Either way it's a violation, granted.
But, I seem to get more grief from coaches, players, and fans on the one when the offensive player secures the ball in mid-air while jumping from the back-court into the front-court.

Paul

He landed in frontcourt, which I just edited above.
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 11:23am
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Odd, I've never gotten grief for this call.
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 12:40pm
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Odd, I've never gotten grief for this call.

You don't know our parents.

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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 11:28am
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Was he jumping from the back-court and then landed in the front-court, or just jumped in air and immediately passed it into the frount-court ?

Either way it's a violation, granted.
But, I seem to get more grief from coaches, players, and fans on the one when the offensive player secures the ball in mid-air while jumping from the back-court into the front-court.

Paul
I find that these situations do not TYPICALLY cause a problem with the coaches (although, middle school and younger coaches are often exempt from this statement).

BUT, they always cause problems with the parents. The reason is simple. Regardless where the ball is, THE BALL DOES NOT CROSS THE DIVISION LINE in either case. Therein lies the rub. 90+% of all parents have no concept of "front court status" or "back court status." They see that the ball does not cross mid court and wonder how on Earth we can be so blind!

This one is actually no different from the player who jumps into the air from out of bounds and catches the ball. Once again, the BALL is never out of bounds. Unfortunately, the player has still not established him/herself on the court in bounds.

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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 11:34am
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Actually had both of these last night (jumping from OOB and jumping from BC). No grief from anyone, parents or coaches.
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 12:00pm
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The sitch that always raises some griping from the coaches and definitely the fans is the throw in that tips off of player A1 in the frontcourt (no control) and goes into the backcourt where it is recovered by a team A player. Team B coaches still gripe about the no call and unfortunately, I still observe some officials call it back court. A second is the backcourt call on a throw in where team A has throw in, A1 jumps in the air from the frontcourt, catches the ball in the air, and then lands backcourt. Another is dribbler A1 in frontcourt, B1 tips the ball away, it hits A1's leg and goes backcourt where it is recovered by Team A. Here, Team A coach and parents gripe.

I always try and tell the officials (especially the newbies) that they did a good job. If I can, when I observe, I try and go into the locker room after a game to constructively discuss the game with the crew. Even though some don;t like what I have to say about what I saw, I still like it when a newer official, or an experienced official for that matter, asked me what I observed. That is how we all get better. I just wish high school would get to the college level where I get a game film and critique of every game.
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 12:05pm
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A second is the backcourt call on a throw in where team A has throw in, A1 jumps in the air from the frontcourt, catches the ball in the air, and then lands backcourt.
Really?
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 12:56pm
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A second is the backcourt call on a throw in where team A has throw in, A1 jumps in the air from the frontcourt, catches the ball in the air, and then lands backcourt.
Let me pose a question. What is the difference between this sitch and a thrown where team A has throwin, and A1 just goes from frontcourt to backcourt to receive throwin (perfectly legal).
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 12:59pm
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Let me pose a question. What is the difference between this sitch and a thrown where team A has throwin, and A1 just goes from frontcourt to backcourt to receive throwin (perfectly legal).

I think Walter learned something today
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 01:08pm
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I think Walter learned something today
Fullor, I learn something new or at least enhance my knowledge every day on this forum.
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Old Fri Jan 23, 2009, 02:21pm
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I think Walter learned something today
Actually I was thinking of the play where B1 tips the throw in by A and then you have the player from A catch it in the air from the frontcourt and land backcourt. That'll teach me to post before reading it!!! I also agree that I have learned a lot from this forum.
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