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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 01:19am
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substituting during refs time

jv game last night object on the floor i blow whistle to stop play. during stoppage team A subs is this legal
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 01:20am
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Yes. It fits all the parameters for a sub (dead ball with the clock stopped) and none of the exceptions apply (no free throws involved).
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 05:17am
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I'm with Snaq: any team can present a substitute. In addition, either team may request a timeout and it should be granted.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 09:09am
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Yes. It fits all the parameters for a sub (dead ball with the clock stopped) and none of the exceptions apply (no free throws involved).
EEK!! Please, oh, please don't continue to use parameters in this way. It's NOT correct. A parameter is a specific mathematical object, not a "definition". IOW, not the same as a "perimeter" or "boundary" as people often use it. "Criteria" would be a very good substitute in the above sentence and sounds much more educated. [toggle off frustrated inner grandmother]
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 09:36am
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EEK!! Please, oh, please don't continue to use parameters in this way. It's NOT correct. A parameter is a specific mathematical object, not a "definition". IOW, not the same as a "perimeter" or "boundary" as people often use it. "Criteria" would be a very good substitute in the above sentence and sounds much more educated. [toggle off frustrated inner grandmother]
Juulie, I think the 2nd definintion from Merriam Webster is close enough to fitting. It's a bit of a stretch, linguistically, I'll admit; but it fits common usage. When people stop incorrectly using "myself," (my personal pet peeve) I'll jump on the strict usage bandwagon.
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EEK!! Please, oh, please don't continue to use parameters in this way. It's NOT correct. A parameter is a specific mathematical object, not a "definition". IOW, not the same as a "perimeter" or "boundary" as people often use it. "Criteria" would be a very good substitute in the above sentence and sounds much more educated. [toggle off frustrated inner grandmother]
Does this work?

The requirements for allowing a sub into the game are all positive, thusly represented by a 1 (negative would be represented by a 0). Therefore, the parameters are all positive. Please allow the sub.

One more thing, I miss Rainmaker, why the change?
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 10:27am
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Juulie, I think the 2nd definintion from Merriam Webster is close enough to fitting. It's a bit of a stretch, linguistically, I'll admit; but it fits common usage. When people stop incorrectly using "myself," (my personal pet peeve) I'll jump on the strict usage bandwagon.
From someone in a field that uses linguistics all the time (I teach American Sign Language), the definition fits. I use the word parameters when talking about individual signs, because there's four parameters to a sign.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 11:24am
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From someone in a field that uses linguistics all the time (I teach American Sign Language), the definition fits. I use the word parameters when talking about individual signs, because there are four parameters to a sign.

Fixed for ya since we are getting into grammar, etc.
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EEK!! Please, oh, please don't continue to use parameters in this way. It's NOT correct. A parameter is a specific mathematical object, not a "definition". IOW, not the same as a "perimeter" or "boundary" as people often use it. "Criteria" would be a very good substitute in the above sentence and sounds much more educated. [toggle off frustrated inner grandmother]

Get over it granny. Dictionary.com disagrees with you.



pa⋅ram⋅e⋅ter /pəˈræmɪtər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [puh-ram-i-ter] Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun

4. Usually, parameters. limits or boundaries; guidelines: the basic parameters of our foreign policy.


5. characteristic or factor; aspect; element: a useful parameter for judging long-term success.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/parameters
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Bater - where are you going with this post?
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 01:47pm
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is this a officials forum or dictionary forum

the next time i want a lesson on grammar i will contact you guys
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 01:58pm
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the next time i want a lesson on grammar i will contact you guys
I think that would be, "Is this an officials forum or a dictionary forum?"
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2009, 03:35pm
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Fixed for ya since we are getting into grammar, etc.
Pardon my mistake...I keep forgetting people speak proper English. My mistake would be a normal thing for deaf people to write. Damn linguist in me just can't stop!
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He's Been Trying To Edumacate Us ...

This is all mbyron's fault. We were all doing fine posting in one syllable words until he showed up.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2009, 07:19am
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Oh sure, blame me.

I read today that the kerfuffle over the presidential oath of office likely happened because Chief Justice Roberts is overly attached to the bogus rule against split infinitives.

The grammarian Fowler was largely responsible for demonizing constructions like, "to boldly go where no man has gone before," but I had always thought that he pulled the rule out of his butt. Turns out he justified it by the fact that Latin infinitives are a single word, and concluded that English infinitives should not be split.

I guess you gotta know where to draw the line. Oh, that probably applies to the OP, too.
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