Let's Be philosophical about officiating

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Then should we ask the question: Why? Or perhaps we should ask: Why not? I do not know. Or do I not know the answer to: Why? Or do I not know the answer to: Why not? I do not know.

MTD, Sr.

[bob jenkins]

Isn't that "stolen" from Jim Evans, the baseball umpire?

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Then should we ask the question: Why? Or perhaps we should ask: Why not? I do not know. Or do I not know the answer to: Why? Or do I not know the answer to: Why not? I do not know.

MTD, Sr.

Been reading Dr. Suess a lot lately?

[bigdogrunnin]

Beachbum,

You must be a manager, a manager in training, or some type of educational leader/consultant . . .

Of course, you didn't address the possible 5th component of this paradigm, which is "Reflective Competence," where a person then uses the Unconscious Competence to affect the competence of another who is working to improve his/her level of competency, conscious or unconscious.

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

Beachbum,

You must be a manager, a manager in training, or some type of educational leader/consultant . . .

Of course, you didn't address the possible 5th component of this paradigm, which is "Reflective Competence," where a person then uses the Unconscious Competence to affect the competence of another who is working to improve his/her level of competency, conscious or unconscious.

Apparently reading Jung or Freud had plenty of effect on you!

[zebraman]

Some other meaningless buzz words or phrases we can add to this fine topic ..... synergy, teaming for change, set the trap line, client-sided approach, brainstorm, push the envelope, empowerment......

Originally Posted by zebraman

Some other meaningless buzz words or phrases we can add to this fine topic ..... synergy, teaming for change, set the trap line, client-sided approach, brainstorm, push the envelope, empowerment......

This ain't "The Office"!!!! *grabbing my head in painful agony*

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Apparently reading Jung or Freud had plenty of effect on you!

Are you referring to Murray Jung and Solly Freud? I read them all the time. They're great!

[beachbum]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

Beachbum,

You must be a manager, a manager in training, or some type of educational leader/consultant . . .

Wow , thanks, most fans call me incompetent and blind.

I have been monotoring this subject waiting for Jurassic Referee , and his opinion. he talks similar to the best official I work with, no nonsense, to the point, and most of all abrasive.
I expect him to say this is all BS, and, let's just officiate!!

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by beachbum

Wow , thanks, most fans call me incompetent and blind.

I have been monotoring this subject waiting for Jurassic Referee , and his opinion. he talks similar to the best official I work with, no nonsense, to the point, and most of all abrasive.
I expect him to say this is all BS, and, let's just officiate!!

Exactly: Stop thinking and just ref!!

The problem for me is that I can't STOP the thinking, I'm compulsive. The only thing to do is to "think into the right direction". Jurassic is very unhelpful in that direct endeavor!! Although, I'll give him credit for helping inadvertently when he quotes a rule, or cites a case play or sitch. Then, I've got something to think about!

Your "stages of reffing" is really good, and I like bigdog adding "Reflective Competence". I'd like there to be a stage where there is competence in choosing which philosophy one is using that game, depending on the level of play, abilities of partner, type of gym and so on. It's highly competent, but also highly conscious, and not just auto-pilot.

[bigdogrunnin]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Exactly: Stop thinking and just ref!!

The problem for me is that I can't STOP the thinking, I'm compulsive. The only thing to do is to "think into the right direction". Jurassic is very unhelpful in that direct endeavor!! Although, I'll give him credit for helping inadvertently when he quotes a rule, or cites a case play or sitch. Then, I've got something to think about!

Your "stages of reffing" is really good, and I like bigdog adding "Reflective Competence". I'd like there to be a stage where there is competence in choosing which philosophy one is using that game, depending on the level of play, abilities of partner, type of gym and so on. It's highly competent, but also highly conscious, and not just auto-pilot.

So would that make you Highly Reflectively Unconsciously Competent? Or is that just a entirely new realm of Consciousness?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Been reading Dr. Suess a lot lately?

Absolutely not! Andy and Mark, Jr., are 15 and 18 years of age, respectively, and I had better not be a grandfather yet. Heck, come to think of it I am too young (57) to be a father, LOL.

MTD, Sr.

[just another ref]

Similar to what I have always heard:

1. Those who can, do.

2. Those who can't, teach.

3. Those who are totally clueless, officiate.

[DonInKansas]

Do or do not. There is no try.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Those who can't, teach.

Sorry to correct you, but you may be wrong. I retired after teaching science for over thirty years. I'm now a successful environmental chemical analyst. I took the job, at first, just for the medical insurance, but now, I've become quite good at it, at least according to my supervisor, and my paycheck. Eight more years at the lab, then the Peace Corps, then full retirement. That's my plan, and I'm sticking to it. Do you think that there's a need for good basketball officials in third world countries?