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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 06:59pm
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To be specfic re: traveling

When a player drags their pivot foot, it is a traveling violation because they are considered to have 'lifted their pivot foot and returned it to the floor' 4-44-3(a)?
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 07:15pm
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Are you asking a question or making a statement?

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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 07:18pm
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No, actually I guess we must refer to the definition of pivot, (4-33) which specifies that the pivot foot must be "kept at its point of contact with the floor.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 07:19pm
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When a player drags their pivot foot, it is a traveling violation because they are considered to have 'lifted their pivot foot and returned it to the floor' 4-44-3(a)?
Not really a lift, but dragging the pivot foot is "moving a foot in any direction in excess of the prescribed limits while holding the ball".

In other words, such movement is simply not permitted because it is not listed as being permitted.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 07:40pm
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hrm.

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Not really a lift, but dragging the pivot foot is "moving a foot in any direction in excess of the prescribed limits while holding the ball".

In other words, such movement is simply not permitted because it is not listed as being permitted.
"The limits on foot movements are as follows:" comes after your quote. I'm just trying to sort which limit (specifically) has been exceeded.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 08:17pm
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"The limits on foot movements are as follows:" comes after your quote. I'm just trying to sort which limit (specifically) has been exceeded.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 09:10pm
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It seems to me that the very definition of "pivot" implies "stationary point." So, if the pivot foot is dragged, it's not stationary. In fact, if that were all that were in the rule, lifting the pivot foot to shoot or pass wouldn't be allowed -- so those are the exceptions that are written into the rule. Since dragging is inherent in the definition, no additional comment / rule is needed.
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