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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 03:50pm
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"15 incorrect calls"

In the Jan '09 issue of REFEREE, there is an article titled, "The Pedowitz Report Q & A" about the NBA's review of the league's officiating program following the Tim Donaghy story. Question 8 stated, "In his trial proceedings, Donaghy contested that a 2002 game six Western Conference finals playoff game (Sacramento vs. Los Angeles) was manipulated by the officials as directed by the league. What did the report conclude?" Answer: "According to the report, the game was not manipulated in any fashion. The officials on the game (Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney and Ted Bernhardt) were interviewed at length. According to a review of the game listed in the report, 'There were a total of 15 incorrect calls and non-calls in the game. The bulk of the game's incorrect calls and non-calls occurred during the first three quarters. So of these 15 errors, eight favored the Lakers while seven favored the Kings.' ...'"

3-man crew of some of the most experienced officials anywhere and they documented "15 incorrect calls" in one game. Thoughts?
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 03:55pm
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3-man crew of some of the most experienced officials anywhere and they documented "15 incorrect calls" in one game. Thoughts?
Officials are expected to be excellent NOT perfect as we are only human. 15 wrong out of how many?
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 04:03pm
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I was watching an NBAtv game, triple ot between the jazz and suns. I was like geez there are some strange calls going on here. A few were calls that could go either way like a close out of bounds call. After 10 minutes I saw that Tim Donaghy was one of the refs. I can't recall if one team was being favored or not but every game he has done will be viewed with suspicion.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 05:04pm
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Officials are expected to be excellent NOT perfect as we are only human. 15 wrong out of how many?
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Including violations and non-violations, fouls and non-fouls, three or not three points, and so on, I'd say in an average HS game I have one of these decisions every 4-6 seconds. That's 12 decisions a minute, and 48 minutes in an NBA game, so 576. 15 wrong out of 576 is a 97.4% accuracy level. That's pretty darn good, in my humble opinion.
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3-man crew of some of the most experienced officials anywhere and they documented "15 incorrect calls" in one game. Thoughts?
13 of them were travels that should have been called.
2 were carries.
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I concur coach! Nice math skills BTW.
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3-man crew of some of the most experienced officials anywhere and they documented "15 incorrect calls" in one game. Thoughts?

1 or 2 mistakes in each quarter by each official. I hope I can be that good one day.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 10:36pm
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Including violations and non-violations, fouls and non-fouls, three or not three points, and so on, I'd say in an average HS game I have one of these decisions every 4-6 seconds. That's 12 decisions a minute, and 48 minutes in an NBA game, so 576. 15 wrong out of 576 is a 97.4% accuracy level. That's pretty darn good, in my humble opinion.
If we assume that EACH of the three officials have 12 calls per minute, the total number of calls is actually 1728 calls during the game. 15 mistakes gets one up to 99.99994% -- OK, kidding, but over 99%.....

I would think that in an NBA game, the decisions are even more frequent due to the fact that the 24 second shot creates a bit more action. Never mind the fact that the clock stops after baskets late in the quarter, inbounds after time outs are in the front court, etc.
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1 or 2 mistakes in each quarter by each official. I hope I can be that good one day.
On average. Could be one really bad official. I hope I'm not that guy!
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