First for Me

AKOFL · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 14, 2009, 05:21pm

2.10.1 sit j A1 attempts a goal from behind the tree point line: (a) but the covering official fail to give the successful signal after the ball goes through the basket, and the scorer records only two points;or(b) and the covering official gives the successful signal, but the scorer records only two points. Team B inbound the ball and procedes to score. The coach of Team A goes to the table and request a 60 second time out to discuss the error. RULING: in(a) the error of not awarding three points is CORRECTABLE as it was detected prior to the second live ball after the error. The extra point is scored, the time out is not charged and the game continues from the POI. In(b) It is a mistake by the scorer which can be corrected any time until the final score has been approved.

#2 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 14, 2009, 05:24pm

^ Where was this say 20+ posts ago

Way to go!

AKOFL · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 14, 2009, 05:29pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town

^ Where was this say 20+ posts ago

Way to go!

I was trying to avoid having to type that long thing.

bob jenkins · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 14, 2009, 09:14pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town

^ Where was this say 20+ posts ago

Way to go!

It was there 21 posts ago.

OHBBREF · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 14, 2009, 05:28pm

Okay I was wrong,

I am still going to blame it on the scorer and get the score right if I have knowledge that it was a three and recorded as a two.

You have to get this right.

AKOFL · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 14, 2009, 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF

Okay I was wrong,

I am still going to blame it on the scorer and get the score right if I have knowledge that it was a three and recorded as a two.

You have to get this right.

If you let the wrong team inbounds the ball what are you going to do?

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 11:22am

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Originally Posted by OHBBREF

Okay I was wrong,

I am still going to blame it on the scorer and get the score right if I have knowledge that it was a three and recorded as a two.

You have to get this right.

Okay, are you saying that if you signal a three, and your partner knows it should have been a two but doesn't say anything until the quarter break (and well after the 2-10 time period has expired), you're going to correct it anyway and just say it was a scoring error?

just another ref · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 12:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Okay, are you saying that if you signal a three, and your partner knows it should have been a two but doesn't say anything until the quarter break (and well after the 2-10 time period has expired), you're going to correct it anyway and just say it was a scoring error?

If it is a 2, then the one official correctly makes no signal. If this official did not know at the time that his partner signaled the 3, but the question comes up later, then the 2 officials decide it was a 2, I have no problem calling this a scoring error.

But I don't think this is exactly what was suggested above.

PIAA REF · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 12:52pm

Sorry It took me so long to get back on. Anyway we did go over this in our pregame. We said if we were 110% sure to blow the whistle and do it immidiately without talking about it. I don't think this is one of the things you get together to discuss. (IMO) If you are without a doubt sure about it. You make the call. Something we also discussed that was different in our pregame was if we missed an out of bounds call. We said that in that case we would go to the calling official and offer assistance. We would allow them to change the call.
Thanks for everyones input.

Raymond · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 01:42pm

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Originally Posted by PIAA REF

Sorry It took me so long to get back on. Anyway we did go over this in our pregame. We said if we were 110% sure to blow the whistle and do it immidiately without talking about it. I don't think this is one of the things you get together to discuss. (IMO) If you are without a doubt sure about it. You make the call. Something we also discussed that was different in our pregame was if we missed an out of bounds call. We said that in that case we would go to the calling official and offer assistance. We would allow them to change the call.
Thanks for everyones input.

Well then, if you did it the way it was discussed in pre-game then your partner shouldn't have had a problem with it.

Adam · #11 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref

If it is a 2, then the one official correctly makes no signal. If this official did not know at the time that his partner signaled the 3, but the question comes up later, then the 2 officials decide it was a 2, I have no problem calling this a scoring error.

But I don't think this is exactly what was suggested above.

I have a problem with it. It's an officials error (2-10) and needs to be corrected within the time frame prescribed or not at all.

PIAA REF · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 01:18pm

I agree with snaqwells. If it is an officials error then it is a correctable error and needs to be corrected in the timeframe allowed. If it was signaled correctly on the court but the scorekeeper but it in the book wrong the official can correct that anytime until they approve the final score.

just another ref · #13 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I have a problem with it. It's an officials error (2-10) and needs to be corrected within the time frame prescribed or not at all.

If one official had the call right, I think that is sufficient grounds to make the correction.

Adam · #14 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2009, 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref

If one official had the call right, I think that is sufficient grounds to make the correction.

There was (rightfully) no signal. Therefore, there was no call. The scorer did not make an error, the officials did.