pet peeve- traveling call

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by ATXCoach

lets say left foot is pivot foot - power dribbles to the paint stepping with the right foot, picks up the dribble, pivots 180 degrees on the right foot, pump fakes, steps through with the left foot, lifts the right foot

this is something you have to see and by your description it has to look awkward and I can see two things
One if the left foot remained the piviot foot in this move this would be a blatant travel since that step through with the left foot would be replacing the pivot foot on the floor.
Second are you sure that the right foot isn't sliding while the player pivots 180 degrees because that would be a travel.

[OHBBREF]

Traveling is across the board the most inconsistant call officials make in my opinion.
however if we called every travel games could run in the three hour range.
just for fin some night while watching an NCAA game on TV tick off the number of times a player lifts the pivot foot before begining a dribble that are not called - or slides the pivot foot, or switches pivot feet quickly before taking off on a drive or shooting.

I think on the whole we are better at it but it still will take a lot more effort on everyone's including my part

[ATXCoach]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

this is something you have to see and by your description it has to look awkward and I can see two things
One if the left foot remained the piviot foot in this move this would be a blatant travel since that step through with the left foot would be replacing the pivot foot on the floor.
Second are you sure that the right foot isn't sliding while the player pivots 180 degrees because that would be a travel.

The move is legal - (in my example) the right foot becomes the pivot foot after the power dribble.

I am not trying to say that my players never make a mistake - obviously we all do - but when you ask the ref after he/she has called it a travel a time or two, "Why is it a travel?" and the response is "because they picked up their pivot foot before they shot the ball" then you pretty much know all you need to know about that particular ref.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by ATXCoach

The move is legal - (in my example) the right foot becomes the pivot foot after the power dribble.

I am not trying to say that my players never make a mistake - obviously we all do - but when you ask the ref after he/she has called it a travel a time or two, "Why is it a travel?" and the response is "because they picked up their pivot foot before they shot the ball" then you pretty much know all you need to know about that particular ref.

I wasn't disagreeing with you - as written it is a legal move if the right foot becomes the pivot foot after the spin move (where it doesn't slide) or move during the pump fake etc etc.
there is a whole lot going on there and a lot of area for a travle to occur, but given the explaination you were given - you might as well get your T now and sit down and watch the festivities, because it is going to be a long afternoon! Sorry coach

[ATXCoach]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

I wasn't disagreeing with you - as written it is a legal move if the right foot becomes the pivot foot after the spin move (where it doesn't slide) or move during the pump fake etc etc.
there is a whole lot going on there and a lot of area for a travle to occur, but given the explaination you were given - you might as well get your T now and sit down and watch the festivities, because it is going to be a long afternoon! Sorry coach

I like to think that my technicals are all calculated events to help my team in the future, but I am probably suffering from a little revisionist history. I am sure there are some embarrising coaching moments that have been erased from my mind.