Only the second time ever for this one

[Mark Padgett]

Think of it this way. If you always ruled that as soon as the hands of the defender broke the plane you would call the violation, you would never have the call of his hands hitting the ball. If it's a single, continuous motion, you call the technical for hitting the ball. If the hands breaking the plane does not directly result in hitting the ball, you just call the delay violation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Think of it this way. If you always ruled that as soon as the hands of the defender broke the plane you would call the violation, you would never have the call of his hands hitting the ball. If it's a single, continuous motion, you call the technical for hitting the ball. If the hands breaking the plane does not directly result in hitting the ball, you just call the delay violation.

That's the same way I view it, but I would still love to see some type of citation from the NFHS.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That's the same way I view it, but I would still love to see some type of citation from the NFHS.

9-2-PENALTIES 3. says, "If an opponent(s) of the thrower reaches through the throw-in boundary-line plane and touches or dislodges the ball while in possession of the thrower ..., a technical foul shall be charged to the offender..."

This verbage seems to coordinate sequentially the "reach through" with the "touches or dislodges", considering the latter following the former to be, in essence, mutually inclusive; hence, one big, fat bad thing to do. Ergo, T.

You decide which is more clear, the NFHS citation or my explanation of it. I vote the citation.

P.S. Don't confuse the above-mentioned "reach through" with the forbidden "reach a......". Two different things.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

This verbiage seems to coordinate sequentially the "reach through" with the "touches or dislodges", considering the latter following the former to be, in essence, mutually inclusive; hence, one big, fat bad thing to do. Ergo, T.

Thanks Freddy, but, you've been reading too many of mbyron posts lately, haven't you?

Wait a minute. mbyron. What have you done with Freddy, why are you posting under his name, and how much ransom do you want to keep him off the Forum?