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Old Sat Jan 10, 2009, 06:40pm
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Could someone tell me why there is no rules on this. You could have a player that dove for a loose ball that had not gotten up quickly enough to set up to defend the inbound pass and this would be a huge advantage to the offense. Surely there is some courtesy rule on this or I'm just crazy. Like I said before when I was playing in high school the official would always hold the ball for a few seconds even if the passer was standing there. Is there anyone that would agree with me on this.
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I would strongly suggest you refer to my earlier post (While I have been an official for years now, I have been a coach since the 70s). This should eliminate the problem for your team when making a throw-in.

While there is no "courtesy rule" per se in basketball, I don't know any official who would intentionally put the ball at the disposition of an inbounder if a player were still lying on the floor having just saved or having attempted to save the ball or if they requested to tie an untied shoe.

At times, some officials do rush to get the ball back into play. Generally, these officials fit into one of two categories:
1. New officials who are in too big of a hurry and fail to make sure that the game is ready to be restarted
2. Veteran officials trying to get-in-and-get-out as quickly as possible.

At the same time, if there is no reason to delay (no subs, no fouls being reported, no injured players, etc.), then as officials we DO try to get the ball in play as quickly as REASONABLY possible (not to be confused with the "courtesy rule.")
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Old Sat Jan 10, 2009, 06:57pm
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2. Veteran officials trying to get-in-and-get-out as quickly as possible.

I'm calling Bull**** on this. I have been taught to keep the game moving. I'm not of the mind set of get-in- get-out concept.

The sooner the ball is back into play; the sooner the coach can start back coaching. So, to say that Veteran officials are of this mind set really displays your officiating I.Q.
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Old Sat Jan 10, 2009, 07:19pm
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2. Veteran officials trying to get-in-and-get-out as quickly as possible.

I'm calling Bull**** on this. I have been taught to keep the game moving. I'm not of the mind set of get-in- get-out concept.

The sooner the ball is back into play; the sooner the coach can start back coaching. So, to say that Veteran officials are of this mind set really displays your officiating I.Q.
Rook,
You can call what you like, but I can tell you that there ARE veteran officials who DO have the mind set of get-in-and-get-out quick mentality. I did NOT say that ALL veteran officials are of this mindset, BUT there are those who ARE. I know one official in particular who would proudly announce "44 minutes" or "52 minutes" as soon as I walked into the gym. He was also referring to the length of time that it took to complete the previous game. Whenever he describes a game, it always starts with the length of the game. It is veteran officials such as this who are much more likely to put the ball in play while a player is lying on the floor, before his partner is ready, etc.

Once again, please do NOT jump to the false conclusion that just because some officials are veteran officials and some veteran officials have the mind set of get-in-and-get-out quick mentality that ALL veteran officials have that mind set. Some of US clearly do NOT have that mindset.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2009, 03:42am
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Rook,
You can call what you like, but I can tell you that there ARE veteran officials who DO have the mind set of get-in-and-get-out quick mentality. I did NOT say that ALL veteran officials are of this mindset, BUT there are those who ARE. I know one official in particular who would proudly announce "44 minutes" or "52 minutes" as soon as I walked into the gym. He was also referring to the length of time that it took to complete the previous game. Whenever he describes a game, it always starts with the length of the game. It is veteran officials such as this who are much more likely to put the ball in play while a player is lying on the floor, before his partner is ready, etc.

Once again, please do NOT jump to the false conclusion that just because some officials are veteran officials and some veteran officials have the mind set of get-in-and-get-out quick mentality that ALL veteran officials have that mind set. Some of US clearly do NOT have that mindset.
Ok, we have reached an agreement NOT all veteran officials have this mind set.
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Old Sat Jan 10, 2009, 07:23pm
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2. Veteran officials trying to get-in-and-get-out as quickly as possible.

I'm calling Bull**** on this. I have been taught to keep the game moving. I'm not of the mind set of get-in- get-out concept.

The sooner the ball is back into play; the sooner the coach can start back coaching. So, to say that Veteran officials are of this mind set really displays your officiating I.Q.
By the way, since you have no idea what my officiating I.Q. might be, that is quite presumptuous on your part to jump to the conclusion -- especially when you are misinterpreting a statement.
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