Returning after TO

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Some think you should avoid putting it down (as OH suggests) due to regional preferences, others (me included) think one time is all it really takes. This is the one thing the opposing coach will notice and adjust to, as well.

Seems to me that IL is a "region" (possibly unspoken) where this doesn't happen much in my experience...others from IL will probably correct me, but I know I haven't seen it this season, and can't recall if I saw it last season..

[Adam]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

Seems to me that IL is a "region" (possibly unspoken) where this doesn't happen much in my experience...others from IL will probably correct me, but I know I haven't seen it this season, and can't recall if I saw it last season..

Since moving to Colorado, the closest I've come to putting the ball down was last week in a JV girls game. Home came out of the first quarter break and the first couple of timeouts just a bit slow (right after the 2nd horn). We talked as a crew and addressed it (we got more agressive in the huddle) and the problem went away.

One time, a team broke out right at the 2nd horn and the other coach was yelling that we needed to put the ball down.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

3. We're playing at the 2nd horn, so please have your kids out by then.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

One time, a team broke out right at the 2nd horn and the other coach was yelling that we needed to put the ball down.

Isn't that what you told the coaches before the game? One follows what you said and gets his team on the floor and the other talks for another 15 seconds, it makes sense that he would want you to put the ball down as that is what you said you would do. If you're going to issue this pregame instructions to the teams then you should stick with it during the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Isn't that what you told the coaches before the game? One follows what you said and gets his team on the floor and the other talks for another 15 seconds, it makes sense that he would want you to put the ball down as that is what you said you would do. If you're going to issue this pregame instructions to the teams then you should stick with it during the game.

You assume I was the R that game. I wasn't. When I'm not the R, I say very little.

1. "Hi, coach."
2. give them my name.
3. "No." In answer to the R asking if I have anything to add. (I never do.)
4. "Good luck, coach."

Furthermore, this was a couple of seasons ago, before I'd "refined" my coach's pregame. I probably wouldn't have mentioned it then even if I was the R, but I do remember it was not mentioned at all during that pre-game.

It also wasn't 15 seconds. They literally were breaking out of the huddle as the horn sounded, and the other coach had them out maybe 2 or 3 seconds sooner.

[bob jenkins]

If the teams are "slow" put the ball down early in the game as they are breaking the huddle and when it won't have much of an effect on the game.

That serves as the warning to be on time later in the game.

[dbking]

On the first occurance, take a little longer by either c or T and tell each coach that they need to be ready to play on the second horn.

Make sure that the two referees on top of key or blocks go to each huddle and tell an assistant that it was the first horn. Stay there and if they are not breaking up step into the huddle and tell the head coach that we are playing on the second horn.

IMO, use the ball on the floor as an absolute last effort ditch effort. Be proactive and the teams almost always respond. I have called both coaches to the table if a second occurane happens and they are not responding. This has always worked for me. In varsity games, I have not put ball on floor in 15 years. This is probably a bad omen....

[Scratch85]

So far we have just mentioned putting the ball on the floor. What if the throw-in team was ready and the defending team was breaking as the second horn sounded. Would you be less likely to put the ball in play after you have enforced it earlier in the game?

I don't see it much in our area either. When I do see/do it, it is usually the throw-in team or both that are delaying. I also wouldn't put the ball in play until my partners are in place. If they are hustling the huddle, it usually buys them a few seconds.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

So far we have just mentioned putting the ball on the floor. What if the throw-in team was ready and the defending team was breaking as the second horn sounded. Would you be less likely to put the ball in play after you have enforced it earlier in the game?

I use the term "put the ball down," but should just use "ROP" as that's what you're doing.

I have little hesitation in handing the ball to the thrower; especially if I've already used ROP once in the game.