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Failure to award a merited free throw or Awarding an unmerited free throw falls under 2-10. So does the protest has to occur before the provisions provided in 2-10? -Josh 
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e-Ticket for official being wrong?
OHBBRef,
You stated, " I can guarantee that if a coach pulls out a book and says anything about something being do(ne) wrong during a game that is the an automatic E-ticket." To each his own. If I get a call completely wrong -- by rule not by judgment -- and a coach gets the book out and confirms it.....Sorry, I am going to eat my crow with the feathers. I am NOT going to punish the coach's team -- AGAIN (typically, the reason the coach looks in the first place is because I made a mistake against his team) -- for my mistake. We can all make mistakes. Sometimes, we have to be man enough to admit it. Just my humble opinion. Last edited by CMHCoachNRef; Wed Jan 07, 2009 at 10:16pm. Reason: Misquote.
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For better or worse, the game goes better when the official has final authority. It goes smoother, it goes faster, and it's just better. "Coach, I'll be happy to discuss it another time, but you'll need to put the book away for the night."
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However, if the book comes out and he wants us to look in it - it is trying to influence an officals decison, period, and also showing up the officials, and they need to look at that section of the book also. A couple of years ago I was the R on a game and the U2 (rookie) made a call and the coach pulled out a book, and started to try to show my partner where he was wrong about a call. After about 30 seconds I went over removed my partner from the conversation by asking him what the issue was, I then asked the coach what the issue was - the coach told me and then went back into the book. I told the coach that no mater what he found in that book he needs to look up bench technical section about trying to influence an officials decision - while he was waiting for the game to end from the locker room, - he now has 30 seconds to leave the gym. By the way the coach was wrong. The administration appealed to the state regarding the ejection, in the meeting the state said clearly the coach was wrong in the manner he went about doing it, and the ejection was proper.
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Thu Jan 08, 2009, 12:10pm
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I agree with you about if I get a call wrong - by rule not judgement that one should fix it and eat your crow. however - If the coach knows you're wrong he will know why should be able to make their case w/o the book. If not getting the book out isn't going to help. I encourage coaches to become rules savay, know them and call us out when in the rare occasions we kick one, but do it in a professional manner. Think of it this way, If I make a call in a game and the coach says "you are wrong", I pull out a rule book and show him in the rule book where he is actually wrong. (I have this dream often)  Would that be appropriate behavior for me as an official? Would I not be showing disrespect to the coach by showing it to him in the book in front of the whole place? I can see a letter of reprimand going in my file for that one!  The coach isn't supposed to be the expert on the floor, so how much worse is it actually for a coach to pull out a book (even calmly) and try to show up the official with the rule book in hand? Mind you rarely would this conversation be done in a totally calm manner, also think about how many ways we as officals on this board can read a rule and come up with something different, now we are going to add the coaches interpretation into it. Book on bench bad thing! Book in ref's pocket bad thing!
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Wed Jan 07, 2009, 10:30pm
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Thats nice, a Coach can take a 10 minute timeout, no penalty. If I was coach and wanted 10 minutes, I would find some rule to question.
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Wed Jan 07, 2009, 10:45pm
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Rocky, those weren't Lewis County officials were they?
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Thu Jan 08, 2009, 12:24am
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 You probably had one of them when you were at Elma!
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Thu Jan 08, 2009, 12:26am
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The coach could have gone to the table for a correctable error. He needs to know how to do that.
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1. He doesnt know the rules about TC fouls 2. He doesn't know the rules about the Coaches box and I am not obligated to sit (yet) 3. He CANNOT TELL me how to do my job 4. He has no right to tell me what to do when he clearly has no idea what he's doing. Pretty tame coaches really. I expect this at the frosh/soph level and sometimes JV. But not varsity.
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Took a little liberty and added a new scenario. It didn't happen in this game by chance, did it 2nd Quarter - the officials allowed 7’-3” A6 substitute to replace 5’-7” A1 for a jump ball situation. The coach stands up and asks (not yelling or anything) why are we having a jump ball and why are you allowing him to be replaced by this 10 foot dude. Official tells him "Because I want to see how high he can jump." Coach says "But it should be our ball based on the alternating possession procedure." Official - "You need to sit down and be quiet, coach and watch how high he can jump." 
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