Crab Dribble?

[Welpe]

All this talk about crab is making me hungry.

I've also never seen a crab dribble a basketball so I think this is all a mute [sic, just for mbyron] point.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

The only play that is different is our "hop" travel rule.

Are you saying players are allowed to hop in the NBA? Because that's traveling in NFHS and NCAA.

[AKOFL]

What's really funny is they had just let him get away with a travel moments before. Then they call it in that sit. Bummer for LBJ

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

My call is traveling.

Since I couldn't slow the tape down, so it took me a while to break it down but here is how I saw it:

1) He stopped his dribble (grabbing the ball with both hands) while his right foot was in contact with the floor.

2) He then proceeded to jump off his right foot.

3) He then landed on his left foot.

4) He then leaped off his left foot.

5) He then landed on his right foot.

6) He then leaped off his right foot in an attempt to shoot the ball.

Casebook traveling.

MTD, Sr.

Agreed. It was 4, and possibly 5 steps total.

[Jay R]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Jay, in the play you are describing count 1 is his right foot and count 2 is his left foot, he is now no longer allowed to progress any further without penalty.

Thus it is no different than other travel rules in this situation.

Can you give me a specific example of a play/move that would be a travel in NFHS/NCAA etc... and legal in the NBA?

[grunewar]

From today's Washington Post:

"Cavaliers Coach Mike Brown, who was ejected in the fourth quarter for disputing an offensive foul on James, agreed with head official Bill Spooner's call that James indeed traveled on the possession."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

From today's Washington Post:

"Cavaliers Coach Mike Brown, who was ejected in the fourth quarter for disputing an offensive foul on James, agreed with head official Bill Spooner's call that James indeed traveled on the possession."

Ouch, I hope Coach Brown has his resume in order.

[Mark Padgett]

This is the only place the "crab dribble" is legal.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Crabs are decapods.

Here's my attempt at a mbryon to English translation:

"Crabs have ten legs"

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Here's my attempt at a mbyron to English translation:

"Crabs have ten legs"

Actually, that's the biological order to which crabs belong: the decapods are one type of crustacean. No translation needed!

[Rich]

Funny that James even thinks it wasn't traveling:

Washington Wizards call LeBron James' 'crab dribble' traveling - ESPN

There's a charge called earlier where James traveled before contact - at least it appeared so to me.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Jay R

Thus it is no different than other travel rules in this situation.

Can you give me a specific example of a play/move that would be a travel in NFHS/NCAA etc... and legal in the NBA?

The only thing different in the NBA is the "hop" travel, which the rule book states that a player is not allowed to alight off one foot and and have that same foot be the first to land. The rhythm of that is 1-1-2 meaning he can't alight off his left foot and the land with his left foot followed by his right foot, now if he lands with both, no problem.

As i have stated years before, there is really no difference in the pro and college rules in traveling. The only way it is refereed different, imo, is that referees at the college and HS level is that they call travels that are marginal or really inconclusive or too close to call or plays that look awkward, whereas in the pro game we are told that we MUST pick up the pivot foot and be 100% sure that it is a travel and if we don't know, not to guess even if you go "ohhhh! that looked funny". I believe that is why the pros catch gufff for quote unquote "they never call travels".

[26 Year Gap]

Well, I watched it about 5 times. And I counted 3 steps every time after he had gathered the ball in. Guess he didn't do well in math class.

[grunewar]

WASHINGTON (AP)—Add LeBron James’ “crab dribble” to the lengthy list of talking points in the Cavaliers-Wizards rivalry.

“I’ll have to check in my book to see what a ‘crab dribble’ is. I’m not quite sure,” Washington interim coach Ed Tapscott said with a smile Monday. “I do know that we don’t seem to get away with very many of them, whatever they are.”

James and the rest of the Cavaliers were given Monday off by coach Mike Brown, so the world will have to wait for more thoughts from them as to whether The Chosen One did, indeed, travel a day earlier when driving for a potential tying basket in the closing seconds of Cleveland’s 80-77 loss at Washington.

Referee Bill Spooner waved off the play and called the violation. Asked to clarify his ruling, Spooner wrote in an e-mail to a pool reporter: “3 steps on the move to the basket. Basic travel call.”

The NBA did not immediately respond to a request from The Associated Press to comment on whether Spooner made the correct call.

On Sunday, James said it was a “bad call” and that “they need to look at it and they need to understand that’s not a travel.”

In giving his take on what happened, James said: “I watched it again, and I took a ‘crab dribble,’ which is a hesitation dribble, and then two steps.”

Asked Monday if he knows what a “crab dribble” is, Wizards All-Star forward Antawn Jamison said, “I know what a traveling is. … I think we all know what traveling is.”

Washington’s other All-Star forward, Caron Butler, gave a similar answer.

“‘Crab dribble’ is when you, uh, travel,” Butler said. “That’s the hottest thing on the market right now.”

Turning to a more serious explanation, Butler said he thought James switched his pivot foot.“I couldn’t do it in AAU, I couldn’t do it in college,” Butler said, “and obviously I can’t do it now.”

AP Sports Writer Tom Withers contributed to this report.

[Amesman]

... "Referee Bill Spooner waved off the play and called the violation. Asked to clarify his ruling, Spooner wrote in an e-mail to a pool reporter: "3 steps on the move to the basket. Basic travel call."

... "Asked Monday if he knows what a "crab dribble" is, Wizards All-Star forward Antawn Jamison said, "I know what a traveling is. ... I think we all know what traveling is."

So now we know who some of those unnamed "guests" reading this thread have been ...