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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 08:16pm
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Never understood it, maybe never will

How some officials can ignore three second violations because they claim there is no advantage/disadvantage when the ball is still on the perimiter is something I have never understood.

Maybe someone can convince me otherwise, but anytime a big post player can set up shop in his or her own lane and not have to move after three seconds, it IS an inherent advantage, no matter where the ball is.

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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 08:20pm
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I might call it there especially if they are waiting for a pass. But when the player is setting screens, moving around then yeah I was told to be more relaxed about that.
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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 08:30pm
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one-thousand-one, one-thousand-two, one-thousand-three. TWEET!
More like:

"One-thousand, two-thousand" they get out of the lane.

Or "One-thousand" they get out of the lane.

Sorry, but what fans are yelling is not when the count starts. I have had coaches call for 3 seconds and the player was not in the lane.

If you do not understand that, then not sure anyone can tell you anything.

I guess we should call high dribbling a violation too.

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Old Wed Dec 31, 2008, 08:47pm
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I have not called a three-second violation in forty years and I have only been officiating for 38 years, .

But, seriously, I have found that I have called fewer 3-second violations in the last eighteen years or so because of how the game is now played than during the first twenty years that I have been officiating. I think that in today's motion offenses, a player who stands in the paint is a negative to his team's offense rather that a plus.

One should remember that the Tower Philosophy applies to contact foul situations and not violations BUT know when and when not to call a 3-second violations is a judgement that comes from experience. I really do not have a problem with young officials calling a 3-second violation strictly by the rules, because it is a learning experience. I know that when I was a young whippersnapper in the peach basket era, I was known to call my share of 3-second violations.

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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 12:19pm
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I have only been officiating for 38 years.
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: This is the way you start the New Year, by stretching the truth, or telling, what my grandmother used to call, "white lies"? My ex called this a lie of omission. Maybe you've only been doing college games for 38 years, but we all know that you've been doing lower level games for a lot longer than that. How many times have you talked about holding the ladder for "Jimmy" when he first decided to hang up those peach baskets?
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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 04:59pm
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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: This is the way you start the New Year, by stretching the truth, or telling, what my grandmother used to call, "white lies"? My ex called this a lie of omission. Maybe you've only been doing college games for 38 years, but we all know that you've been doing lower level games for a lot longer than that. How many times have you talked about holding the ladder for "Jimmy" when he first decided to hang up those peach baskets?

ROFLMAO

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Old Thu Jan 01, 2009, 07:12pm
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More like:

"One-thousand, two-thousand" they get out of the lane.

Or "One-thousand" they get out of the lane.

Sorry, but what fans are yelling is not when the count starts. I have had coaches call for 3 seconds and the player was not in the lane.

If you do not understand that, then not sure anyone can tell you anything.

I guess we should call high dribbling a violation too.

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Actually, I was referring to the count in my head. If it's a coach counting, it's more like
ONE! TWO!
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