calling it but dealing with the annoyances afterwards

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by beachbum

AND with the 5 or 10 second count, I try to move my arm a little slower than a second per movement.

Why? It's a five or 10 second count for a reason.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Why? It's a five or 10 second count for a reason.

I fall on the side of trying to get my counts right. If I have a 10 second call at 10 seconds so be it. I don't give extra time..

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I fall on the side of trying to get my counts right. If I have a 10 second call at 10 seconds so be it. I don't give extra time..

Agreed. But, it's better (imo) to be at 11 than to be at 9.

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Agreed. But, it's better (imo) to be at 11 than to be at 9.

If my count is calibrated right, they should get about 10.5 seconds anyway. If I am visibly counting the inbounds pass with my right hand, that means I am chopping the clock with my left. I will then count the backcourt with my left hand. That will automatically give the offense approximately .5 second.

If I am administering the throw-in, I will not start my count until I back away from the thrower a step or two. That gives them about a .5 second too. Once I start my count, its 5 or 10 on the nose (or as close as I can get).

[beachbum]

When I said I try to be alittle slow, I didn't mean I'm trying to give 15 seconds....I just don't want to be at 9. Since officials can get pumped during a good game and really move their arm too fast, I make a consious effort to make sure I'm just a shade over.

[beachbum]

I know, maybe we can argue for a couple of days if the count should be exact.

What's a .5 of a second, give or take .25 anyways!!!!!!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Agreed. But, it's better to be at 11 than to be at 9.

Always listen to bob. Happy New Year.

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Agreed. But, it's better (imo) to be at 11 than to be at 9.

Not when the ball is deflected out of bounds and the shot clock shows 10+ seconds elapsed. Of course, you can always blame the shot clock timer for starting too early.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I have only been officiating for 38 years.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: This is the way you start the New Year, by stretching the truth, or telling, what my grandmother used to call, "white lies"? My ex called this a lie of omission. Maybe you've only been doing college games for 38 years, but we all know that you've been doing lower level games for a lot longer than that. How many times have you talked about holding the ladder for "Jimmy" when he first decided to hang up those peach baskets?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

Not when the ball is deflected out of bounds and the shot clock shows 10+ seconds elapsed. Of course, you can always blame the shot clock timer for starting too early.

Let me rephrase -- it's never worse to be at 11 than to be at 9.

While the official in your example would catch some grief, so would the official who called a violation when the shot clock showes 9 seconds elapsed.

(all assuming immediate control and a proper shot clock, of course).

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: This is the way you start the New Year, by stretching the truth, or telling, what my grandmother used to call, "white lies"? My ex called this a lie of omission. Maybe you've only been doing college games for 38 years, but we all know that you've been doing lower level games for a lot longer than that. How many times have you talked about holding the ladder for "Jimmy" when he first decided to hang up those peach baskets?

ROFLMAO

MTD, Sr.

[amusedofficial]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

More like:

"One-thousand, two-thousand" they get out of the lane.

Or "One-thousand" they get out of the lane.

Sorry, but what fans are yelling is not when the count starts. I have had coaches call for 3 seconds and the player was not in the lane.

If you do not understand that, then not sure anyone can tell you anything.

I guess we should call high dribbling a violation too.

Peace

Actually, I was referring to the count in my head. If it's a coach counting, it's more like
ONE! TWO!
Tweet! T

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Here's the deal with three seconds. If you call it strictly by the book every time someone so much as has a toe on the line, the only people you will make happy are the fans. You won't please the coaches, you won't please your assigner, and you won't be happy with your schedule of games.

At upper levels, it is expected to call it a little differently than "by the book."

Snaq's is right I worked with a young kid a week or so agoa and he had three seconds on the brain, he must have called 8 of them in the first quarter.
both the fans and the coaches quit asking for them then.
And everyone that he called was a three second call by the rules.
our conversation between quarters was, I am not saying you made the wrong calls, I a asking youdid those calls fit the game we had in front of us -
he called a couple more through out the game but they were much more in tune with the game.

[buckrog64]

This season, I haven't even had to say much to the players; maybe three times all season. "Get out of the lane." I don't use a color or number, as it's obvious to the players who needs to get out of the lane.

Not always so obvious when working jr-high girls b-ball, but I understand the point.....