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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 02:31pm
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Again we are referring to something out in the open and directly under the jurisdiction of the officials ...

If the comments were made in the huddle and I heard them OH YEAH - coach has a seat belt on the bench or possibly in their bus for the ride home!

But I still say the locker room is OOB, Nun Ya, off limits, what ever, that is an admistrative officials area to deal with.

10.4.1 SITUATION B:
At halftime, as the teams, coaches, and officials are
making their way through a hallway to the dressing room, a Team A member verbally
abuses one of the officials.
RULING: A technical foul is charged to the team
member and is also charged indirectly to the head coach. During intermission all
team members are bench personnel and are penalized accordingly. If the conduct
is flagrant, the team member shall be disqualified. The third quarter will begin
with two Team B free throws and the ball awarded at half court. The alternating possession arrow is unaffected. Team A will also have one foul toward the team foul count. (10-4-1a)
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 02:36pm
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In this case, the coach isn't properly fulfilling his role as a steward of his young charges. He isn't simply criticizing the calls or performance of the officials, but with his 8 v. 5 comment is actually calling them cheaters. Furthermore, he is directly telling the youngsters on his team that those three adults are intentionally being cheating them. I don't know of a more insulting comment that a coach can make than to impugn the personal integrity of a game official. This offense, in front of the very youth for which the coach is supposed to be setting a good example, is unconscionable and calls for sterner action than just a behind the scenes filing of a report. The kids won't see the report, but they do see the action and hear the words of the coach, and that needs to be contradicted by public punishment so that the kids understand that this behavior is wrong. This situation is about doing what is right for the kids.
But if you can show me an official specifically has jurisdiction over the teams locker room I'll jump on board.
Because based on this logic - if you go back into the locker room at the 6 minute mark and the team is in there and the coach is giving his Rah Rah speech in the same locker room and he says, go out there and kick their
F^(#&@g A$$e$ and you hear it, you have to Whack him for that !
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 02:42pm
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But if you can show me an official specifically has jurisdiction over the teams locker room I'll jump on board.
Because based on this logic - if you go back into the locker room at the 6 minute mark and the team is in there and the coach is giving his Rah Rah speech in the same locker room and he says, go out there and kick their
F^(#&@g A$$e$ and you hear it, you have to Whack him for that !
He already has, in this very thread:

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So your partners wouldn't enforce this rule either...


10.1.3 SITUATION B:
The home team: (a) has a television monitor in the press
box or the dressing room and is relaying information to the player’s bench; or (b)
uses a replay of the first half during the intermission for use by the coach in
preparation for the second half.
RULING: Illegal in both (a) and (b). A technical
foul is charged to the home team in both cases. The prohibition does not affect
the filming, televising or taping of a game if it is not used for coaching purposes
during that particular game.

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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 02:46pm
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[LEFT]10.4.1 SITUATION B:
[FONT=Helvetica-Condensed][SIZE=1]At halftime, as the teams, coaches, and officials are making their way through a hallway to the dressing room, a Team A member verbally abuses one of the officials.
out in the open with I believe the legal term would be "no expectation of privacy." I may be reading into this but I am seeing this as the comment was made to the official.


in a locker room there is "an expectation of privacy " for a team, and no where does it say the official has authority over what goes on inside the locker room, that is not directly related to some other violation of the rules that I am aware of.
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