Coaches/Captains sell out by the R

[fullor30]

Not much you can do other than to express your feelings to him.

I'm going to confess I did something similar a few weeks ago that I regret.

I'm the R and we are all set for the tip............."blue this way, white this way" ready to toss and suddenly the jarring horn from the table and scorer is calling me over. One team had their numbers completely wrong in book, wrong starters, wrong everything. As a crew we huddle, I say great way to start a game with a technical, U1 says let's pass and start the game, U2 frowns and I can tell wants to do the right thing and T them up. I pass on it.

I'll never do that again. And I'm going to apologize to U2.

It doesn't matter, but it was a very lopsided game, with two weak teams. Coaches never asked what was happening, almost to the point of indifference. That said, it wasn't right.

There, I said it and I feel better.

[tomegun]

Your partner was a jerk and threw you under the bus! As soon as he asked you to explain or whatever, you should have took the pregame meeting over.

Someone else mentioned it, but you should have just told the girls to take off the illegal headbands. Being the fashion police is getting pretty old, but it is what it is.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Your partner was a jerk and threw you under the bus! As soon as he asked you to explain or whatever, you should have took the pregame meeting over.

Someone else mentioned it, but you should have just told the girls to take off the illegal headbands. Being the fashion police is getting pretty old, but it is what it is.

Being the R doesn't make one the decider on which rules are going to be followed or ignored. I'd tell the kids to take off the illegal equipment regardless of what that guy said.

(As the R I also can't imagine trying to be like this knowing I need my partners to have my back for the entire game.)

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Being the R doesn't make one the decider on which rules are going to be followed or ignored. I'd tell the kids to take off the illegal equipment regardless of what that guy said.

(As the R I also can't imagine trying to be like this knowing I need my partners to have my back for the entire game.)

Rich, I'm assuming you quoted me because you agree with what I said because I agree with what you are saying. I hope I didn't say something that might be taken the wrong way.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Rich, I'm assuming you quoted me because you agree with what I said because I agree with what you are saying. I hope I didn't say something that might be taken the wrong way.

I was just agreeing with you. Sorry for not being clear.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I'm going to confess I did something similar a few weeks ago that I regret.

I'll never do that again. And I'm going to apologize to U2.


There, I said it and I feel better.

I believe no one can be harder on yourself then yourself about this so its all good.

Having said that I'm in the U2's spot ALOT.

Rant ON ::::

Why is there so much concern about enforcing the rules, its like I'm working for the UN, everybody's concerned about everything except the rules. I am just starting my Varsity part of this whole deal and the excuses from the other officials for not taking care of pregame dunks, wrong numbers in the books, coaches behaving badly, etc is just beyond appalling. And this coming from someone who spent lots of time in mosh pits.

If i have a partner call and apologize i would fall on the floor in convulsions and work the rest of the year for free, maybe.

Takes a big man to admit when you were wrong and apologize-my hat is off to you.

[icallfouls]

Why didn't you take care of the hair bands yourself? It is just as much your job as the R's. When the warm ups are going on just tell the players that are in violation that they will have to remove them in order to play. TAKE CARE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE DIRECT CONTROL OVER! The R is not the sole member of the fashion gustopo.

Don't be to concerned with your partner selling you out, he gave you an opportunity to step up and you did it even when you weren't really expecting it. He did it and inadvertantly made himself look stupid for not addressing it. You should've ended the informational meeting with, "the players that have nonconforming bands will not be allowed to play until they conform." That now takes it out of R's hands and he has no room to waiver because both coaches have been informed, and at worst, one of them will force the issue.

Since it is a POE, and partner said he wasn't going to enforce it, you can only mention it to the assignor and see how he wants to handle it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

The R is not the sole member of the fashion gestapo.

We don't have that much power. We're only the fashion police.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We don't have that much power. We're only the fashion police.

You said that with muy mucho gusto!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Why didn't you take care of the hair bands yourself? It is just as much your job as the R's. When the warm ups are going on just tell the players that are in violation that they will have to remove them in order to play. TAKE CARE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE DIRECT CONTROL OVER! The R is not the sole member of the fashion gustopo.

Don't be to concerned with your partner selling you out, he gave you an opportunity to step up and you did it even when you weren't really expecting it. He did it and inadvertantly made himself look stupid for not addressing it. You should've ended the informational meeting with, "the players that have nonconforming bands will not be allowed to play until they conform." That now takes it out of R's hands and he has no room to waiver because both coaches have been informed, and at worst, one of them will force the issue.

Since it is a POE, and partner said he wasn't going to enforce it, you can only mention it to the assignor and see how he wants to handle it.

Agreed.

Peace

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I believe no one can be harder on yourself then yourself about this so its all good.

Having said that I'm in the U2's spot ALOT.

Rant ON ::::

Why is there so much concern about enforcing the rules, its like I'm working for the UN, everybody's concerned about everything except the rules. I am just starting my Varsity part of this whole deal and the excuses from the other officials for not taking care of pregame dunks, wrong numbers in the books, coaches behaving badly, etc is just beyond appalling. And this coming from someone who spent lots of time in mosh pits.

If i have a partner call and apologize i would fall on the floor in convulsions and work the rest of the year for free, maybe.

Takes a big man to admit when you were wrong and apologize-my hat is off to you.

There are a lot of officials who don't want to start a game with technical fouls or generally don't want to "get their hands dirty." As you keep officiating, you may find these are the same officials who conveniently don't hear unsporting comments, don't see unsporting acts and want to avoid conflict that should be taken care of.