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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 07:43am
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You could apply a version of the "Meese Gambit": if the coach didn't deserve this particular T, he probably did something recently that deserved one and didn't get it.
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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 08:43am
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This is a high school game and in your pre-game meeting with the coaches and captains you told them you expected good sportsmanship throughout the evening. No way that is good sportsmanship and sets a bad example for high school kids-- technical foul after just a few seconds of staring. Easy decision as far as I'm concerned.
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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 09:08am
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I recall several years ago an official (Ron Garretson I think) in an NBA game calling a T on a player for exactly this reason. I could hear the official saying the player was trying to intimidate him.
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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 09:47am
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Personally, if you don't T the initial rant, the stare doesn't get the T either.

Furthermore, if you can't take care of business yourself, don't blame your partners for not doing it. Sounds to me like this was his T to get, not his partners'.
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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 09:57am
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There is a middle ground here. One of the other officials could walk over and get the coach back into his huddle. Of course, by walking over there, it's pretty hard to whack him because it looks like you're baiting him at that point, but it's something I would be willing to risk if I knew the coach and if I had no intention of whacking him for the stare anyway.

I have also, when the target of "the stare" found a reason to turn and walk from the block and tie a shoe or get a towel to clean up an imaginary wet spot on the floor.

I have whacked in this situation. I do think it's unsportsmanlike and is showing up the official, but I don't necessarily think the technical is the best course of action for the game.

As for the official being angry at his partners -- if he wanted a technical called HE should've called it! This isn't like a second technical where it's nice if a different official gets it. This is more like expecting a partner to do your dirty work for you.

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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 11:00am
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I don't have a technical in this situation. There are coaches around these parts who do the same, they'll stare at the officials while berating their team in the huddle. My high school coach did the same, and he never got a T for it. It's a thick skin thing; if it isn't verbally directed at me, my partner, or someone from the other team, I'm going to ignore it and do a redirect like the partner in the OP did if possible.
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Old Tue Dec 16, 2008, 12:08pm
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I don't have a technical in this situation. There are coaches around these parts who do the same, they'll stare at the officials while berating their team in the huddle. My high school coach did the same, and he never got a T for it. It's a thick skin thing; if it isn't verbally directed at me, my partner, or someone from the other team, I'm going to ignore it and do a redirect like the partner in the OP did if possible.
So if he gives the two arm wave at you or another such gesture you'll ignore cause it wasn't verbal?
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