Violation on jump ball

[Illini_Ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

the violating team will get the arrow when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower from the opposing team.

Are you sure? I don't believe the arrow is set until the throw-in ends or the team taking the ball out violates.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Illini_Ref

Are you sure? I don't believe the arrow is set until the throw-in ends or the team taking the ball out violates.

He's sure, read the rule he gave you.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Illini_Ref

Are you sure? I don't believe the arrow is set until the throw-in ends or the team taking the ball out violates.

That is when the arrow gets REVERSED. In this situation we are concerned with when the arrow gets initially set. Two different things.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Illini_Ref

Are you sure?

He don't know Nevada very good, do he?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

He don't know Nevada very good, do he?

Yeah, if there's one thing Nevada always is, it's "sure."

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by Illini_Ref

Are you sure? I don't believe the arrow is set until the throw-in ends or the team taking the ball out violates.

LOL Oh he's sure.....

[Spence]

On this play, does the clock start when its touched by someone or soemthing other than the jumper or does it start when the jumper touches it?

I can't find that in the rulebook.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Spence

On this play, does the clock start when its touched by someone or soemthing other than the jumper or does it start when the jumper touches it?

I can't find that in the rulebook.

When the jumper touches it.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Spence

On this play, does the clock start when its touched by someone or soemthing other than the jumper or does it start when the jumper touches it?

I can't find that in the rulebook.

5-9-2.

Always listen to Bob. (11-1-1)

[Spence]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

5-9-2.

Always listen to Bob. (11-1-1)

Thanks, gentlemen.

5-9-2 says "legally touched."

So, if a jumper gets whistled for hitting the ball on the way up would the clock not start. I ask because many timers seem to go on their own without waiting for the officials to start the clock. So, if this is not a legal touch and the timer started the clock, do I have him/her reset it?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Spence

Thanks, gentlemen.

5-9-2 says "legally touched."

So, if a jumper gets whistled for hitting the ball on the way up would the clock not start. I ask because many timers seem to go on their own without waiting for the officials to start the clock. So, if this is not a legal touch and the timer started the clock, do I have him/her reset it?

IMO, it should start and then "immediately" stop.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by Illini_Ref

Are you sure? I don't believe the arrow is set until the throw-in ends or the team taking the ball out violates.

BD

Think of it this way...

If on the throw-in the thrower stuck the ball through the plane and the defender grabbed it - a held ball is whistled. Since the throw-in had not ended and no violation occurred who would get the ball? You wouldn't send those two to the center to jump. Therefore, the arrow must be set when it's placed at the disposal of the thrower.