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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 12:16pm
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So who was the official scorer? And what relation were they to the home team?
That's my question. In your experience is there usually three books? The 'official', home and visitor books?! In my experience, I have not seen that, unless you count the electronic book (ie play-by-play software)

All D1 college games used an electronic book (and many, if not all, other levels of college). I have not encountered this in Iowa high school games but used to work for a company that provided this service in Kentucky. Could this software be used to help resolve this issue as well? Or would this be a no-no, like video replay?

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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 12:28pm
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All D1 college games used an electronic book (and many, if not all, other levels of college).
What's an "electronic book"? Do you mean that they use a computer as the official book? Or do you mean a laptop to track stats? If you mean the latter, then I agree these are becoming very common at my D3 sites.

I've never seen a computer used as the official scorebook. When there is a computer to track stats, NCAA rules state that it can be used to clear up confusion. If necessary, I would use it in situations such as:

what was the time on the clock when the last basket was scored;
who was credited with the last basket;
who received the last AP throw-in?
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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 12:32pm
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I guess when it all comes down to it, the official book is official!!!!
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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 12:40pm
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Doesn't 2-11-11 spell it out? "The official scorer shall compare records with the visitor's scorer, and notify the referee if there is a discepancy. If the mistake cannot be found, the referee shall accept the record of the official scorebook, unless he/she has knowledge which permits him/her to decide otherwise." So, the official book could have a mistake, and given all the information available (new scorer, visitor's book info, player info, etc.), we can correct the official book. It's not written in stone.
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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 12:47pm
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Doesn't 2-11-11 spell it out? "The official scorer shall compare records with the visitor's scorer, and notify the referee if there is a discepancy. If the mistake cannot be found, the referee shall accept the record of the official scorebook, unless he/she has knowledge which permits him/her to decide otherwise." So, the official book could have a mistake, and given all the information available (new scorer, visitor's book info, player info, etc.), we can correct the official book. It's not written in stone.
New scorer wasn't in the original post.

My point is that it's not a slam dunk to me that just because to other unofficial scorers had a different score, you automatically overrule the official book.
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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 12:58pm
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New scorer wasn't in the original post.

My point is that it's not a slam dunk to me that just because to other unofficial scorers had a different score, you automatically overrule the official book.
I agree, but it's also not a slam-dunk that the official book is the final word, no matter what.

We have the ability to change the official book if we know why the difference exists.
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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 01:03pm
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it's also not a slam-dunk that the official book is the final word, no matter what.
No argument here.
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