first T of the year

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by rockchalk jhawk

sorry, just found that ironic.

It's good that you found it ironic, since that was pretty much the point.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

It's good that you found it ironic, since that was pretty much the point.

Is this a good time for a binary joke?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Is this a good time for a binary joke?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Is this a good time for a binary joke?

1011001, 1011101, and 1011011, walk into a bar with a pet 1001001. The bartender says, "I don't think I'm allowed to serve 1001001?" 1011001 replies ... Nevermind. You all probably heard this 1 already.

[rockyroad]

Sometimes NOT responding to comments like the ones in the OP will cause things to get worse, not better. On a play like that, I think PA Coach was right in responding with what he saw and why it wasn't a travel. Without being there, I think the Varsity coach was seeing what exactly PA Coach was made of - he pushed the limits on purpose to see what kind of official he was dealing with. He got his answer. Now when PA Coach does this guy's Varsity games later in the season, he will know what to expect. A coach who has won over 600 HS games knows exactly what he's doing in situations like that one.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Sometimes NOT responding to comments like the ones in the OP will cause things to get worse, not better. On a play like that, I think PA Coach was right in responding with what he saw and why it wasn't a travel. Without being there, I think the Varsity coach was seeing what exactly PA Coach was made of - he pushed the limits on purpose to see what kind of official he was dealing with. He got his answer. Now when PA Coach does this guy's Varsity games later in the season, he will know what to expect. A coach who has won over 600 HS games knows exactly what he's doing in situations like that one.

I agree with everything here, except for the idea that officials should be responding to anything an ASSt. coach says. I'm going to ignore it until such a coach is becoming a nuisance, when I'm going to ask the head coach whether he or she has a question, and then ask him or her to get the bench personnel under control.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I agree with everything here, except for the idea that officials should be responding to anything an ASSt. coach says. I'm going to ignore it until such a coach is becoming a nuisance, when I'm going to ask the head coach whether he or she has a question, and then ask him or her to get the bench personnel under control.

And that would prove my original point - sometimes ignoring things MAKES them become a nuisance. Sometimes a simple response can defuse the assistant coaches and stop them from becoming a nuisance. Not always, in which case the head coach needs to take care of them, but sometimes it actually works - just look at it this way: how would you like it if you said something to someone at work and they just glared at you and ignored you. Would that make you think "Oh my, I'm only an assistant here and I should probably be quiet now" or would it make you think "Geesh. This guy is an a$$." and then you just step it up a little??

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And that would prove my original point - sometimes ignoring things MAKES them become a nuisance.

That's true, but it's not my problem. And, glaring at people and otherwise being an a$$ doesn't count as ignoring them.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

That's true, but it's not my problem. And, glaring at people and otherwise being an a$$ doesn't count as ignoring them.

That's what my wife tells me.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mbyron

That's true, but it's not my problem.

I seriously hope that you are not serious here...if by ignoring something you allow it to become an issue, then it most certainly is your problem. A quick, quiet answer can often defuse a situation and make your life much easier.

[OHBBREF]

In 95% of cases I am opposed to responding to comments, however, there are those cases where a quick well phrased reference to a rule or exactly what you saw can defuse a situation. A quick signal of a juggled ball so as to tell the coach you saw it but there was no possession - just the same as the signal for not closely guarded, can let a coach know you are on top of it and get them of you back. I think the comment of "coach she lost it " is fine, I do not think that " you can not travel without the ball" was needed, too open ended.

The Whack was perfect and hopefully given with the same emphasis as a travel. Like others have said the coach was testing you. You passed. I doubt you will have an incident with him again. Unless he wants it or something goes heywire.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I seriously hope that you are not serious here...if by ignoring something you allow it to become an issue, then it most certainly is your problem. A quick, quiet answer can often defuse a situation and make your life much easier.

I have no problem a quick, quiet answer. I (still) agree that doing so CAN be good game management, and is consistent with the tactic of ignoring statements and answering questions.

But the OP did that, and the ASSt. coach STILL became a problem. Thus it does not ALWAYS solve the problem. And, as I said, at that point the problem is the head coach's, because I'm not going to argue with the ASSt. coach.

[fullor30]

Just another day at the office. I'd casually whack him with the same emotion as a travelling call. If you didn't whack him, he wouldn't respect you. I think you were being tested and you aced it.