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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 01:38am
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Technical?

During my game this evening, I was going to be the new trail coming off of a OOB violation by Team B. Team A was going to get a throw-in in their backcourt.

One of my partners observed A2 had bobby pins in her hair and charged her with a technical foul and charged it indirectly to the head coach.

I didn't agree with the ruling. I questioned the ruling but they insisted so I dropped it and we moved on. From what I've seen the items listed in 3-5 don't have any "penalty" the player just isn't allowed to play until the illegal item is resolved.

Am I way off base? Your thoughts? Thanks.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 01:41am
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You were right and your partners were wrong.

Shame on M&M for not listening to you for once.

Did it snow down there too?

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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 01:44am
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You were right and your partners were wrong.

Shame on M&M for not listening to you for once.

Did it snow down there too?

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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 04:25am
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You were right and your partners were wrong.
I agree with Rut.

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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 08:49am
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One of my partners observed A2 had bobby pins in her hair and charged her with a technical foul and charged it indirectly to the head coach.
Please tell me this wasn't a varsity game.

Even if it were a technical foul, the kid was a PLAYER, not bench personnel, so no indirect to the coach.

That's terrible.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 09:00am
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Personally, I sub the player out of the game. I tell the players in the pregame that 'I am hair envy' (I am bald), it gets a laugh every now and then.
I know other officials just have the player remover the illegal objects during the next clock stoppage.
This situation with illegal itema in the hair does not warrant a 'T'.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 09:02am
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From what I've seen the items listed in 3-5 don't have any "penalty" the player just isn't allowed to play until the illegal item is resolved.
My approach in an effort to change my partners mind in that situation would be to ask him if a play has thier Jersey un tucked is that a Technical Foul?

Of course if they say yes we are going to have other problems the rest of the game.

Curiosity - What level and what level of experience were your partners?
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 09:07am
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I agree with Rut.

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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 09:41am
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From what I've seen the items listed in 3-5 don't have any "penalty" the player just isn't allowed to play until the illegal item is resolved.
Just as I posted in another thread:

3-4 Transgressions: You can play, but it costs a T.

3-5 Transgressions: You can't play, and there's no T.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 09:54am
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I agree with Rut.

Mark down the date and time.
Lol...yes very well agreed with the ruling. It should've been that the player had to sit out until they were removed. No T is needed.

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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 10:53am
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Shame on M&M for not listening to you for once.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 10:57am
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 12:54pm
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Please tell me this wasn't a varsity game.
In that case, there's no reason way to break it to you...it was varsity.

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Curiosity - What level and what level of experience were your partners?
One had 15+ the other had ~13 but is just coming back from a few years off.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 01:09pm
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Well...... at least when they kick a play they REALLY kick it. The indirect to the coach at least puts the seatbelt on him so he doesn't chew your ear off the rest of the game.

Sorry you got stuck with that ........ just terrible.
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