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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 11:32am
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Say it's inside the 3 pt line & they go back to the division line or at the FT line extended & they go to the division line... how would you handle that?
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 11:46am
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Say it's inside the 3 pt line & they go back to the division line or at the FT line extended & they go to the division line... how would you handle that?
That's a big enough difference that I might have a quick conference and say, "I wanted the throw-in over there."
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 12:41pm
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That is true for b/c violations as well, correct? I'm seeing the violation occur at the 3 pt line & the ball is being put in play at the division line...

How should we handle it if you make the b/c call, indicate the throw-in spot & become the new lead but your partner makes their own throw-in spot??
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Depends how far off your partner's spot is. That's a "HTBT", IMO.
Agree, no need for a pissing contest unless the difference is more than a few feet (most BC violations occur within a few feet of the division line).
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 01:09pm
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Just because there are 4 arrows (and 2 arrows) doesn't mean those are the only spots.
I agree with this. But I also don't believe in picking my spot on the corners. It is too much of a disadvantage for the team that did not violate. If it is on the baseline, I typically pick my spot at about the 3-point arc. If it is on the sideline, I move up 6-8 feet (maybe more)
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 01:12pm
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I agree with this. But I also don't believe in picking my spot on the corners. It is too much of a disadvantage for the team that did not violate. If it is on the baseline, I typically pick my spot at about the 3-point arc. If it is on the sideline, I move up 6-8 feet (maybe more)
My advice? Take it out where it goes out. If that's in a corner, so be it. There's no need to set aside the rules here.

Unless, of course, your assigner wants you to "help" out the offensive team by giving them a more advantageous throwin spot than the rules provide for.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 01:21pm
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My advice? Take it out where it goes out. If that's in a corner, so be it. There's no need to set aside the rules here.

Unless, of course, your assigner wants you to "help" out the offensive team by giving them a more advantageous throwin spot than the rules provide for.
I spotted the baseline corner twice last night. Eventhough the team had lined up for a "Stack" between the lane and the sideline. I told the in-thrower to stand in my spot and they ran the same play, anyway.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 01:23pm
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My advice? Take it out where it goes out. If that's in a corner, so be it.
I will take your advice. In the manual Diagram 3-8 shows a ball being put in play outside the arc. Thanks for the advice, I will get it right from now on.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 01:24pm
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I spotted the baseline corner twice last night. Eventhough the team had lined up for a "Stack" between the lane and the sideline. I told the in-thrower to stand in my spot and they ran the same play, anyway.
One of my favorite events: When I set up a spot throwin anywhere on the baseline except right on the lane line. A1 almost always heads for that nearest spot to the basket, and I have to (verbally) pull them out to me.

I found it's best to simply tell them how many steps to move.

"35, take 3 steps towards me." One of these days I may start that with "Simon says."
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I will take your advice. In the manual Diagram 3-8 shows a ball being put in play outside the arc. Thanks for the advice, I will get it right from now on.

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In a 2-whistle game, there remains a judgment we may have to make.
Do we administer inside or outside ? There are positives and negatives with either choice
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 02:03pm
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In a 2-whistle game, there remains a judgment we may have to make.
Do we administer inside or outside ? There are positives and negatives with either choice
Oooh, good one, mick. Manual says outside for 2-person. Can't keep 'em boxed in otherwise. But you're sometimes inside?
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 02:59pm
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Oooh, good one, mick. Manual says outside for 2-person. Can't keep 'em boxed in otherwise. But you're sometimes inside?
I am. I figger that's not all that different from the Lead administering the ball on the front court sideline below the free throw line extended, where Lead is also inside the in-thrower.

I have a slight aversion too literally abandoning the endline to 8 or 9 players, by putting the in-thrower between me and them just for me to be watching an empty sideline.

Ya makes yer picks and takes yer chances.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 03:45pm
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One of my favorite events: When I set up a spot throwin anywhere on the baseline except right on the lane line. A1 almost always heads for that nearest spot to the basket, and I have to (verbally) pull them out to me.

I found it's best to simply tell them how many steps to move.

"35, take 3 steps towards me." One of these days I may start that with "Simon says."
Yes, it seems like this happens a couple times every game. Sometimes they look at you like you're crazy. I just stand at the spot and say "Come this way" until I get them to the spot where we're throwing it in.
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Manual says outside for 2-person. Can't keep 'em boxed in otherwise. But you're sometimes inside?
The IAABO Mechanics Manual gives you a choice. You don't always have to "box in", as I've been told for over a quarter of a century. IAABO members: see page 49, in the Two-Person Mechanics Manual. Is anybody being taught this? Does anybody use this? The old mechanic was so easy to remember: me/ball/partner, all the time, everywhere on the court, anytime there was a throwin situation.

What are the NFHS guidelines in terms of "boxing in"? Is there an option to official/ball/partner?
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