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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 07:21pm
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Two thoughts:

1. These plays seem to come in bunches for me. I had one tonight. I fully expect to have another one or two in the next couple games. Just happens.

2. Don't be afraid to ask for it - if the ball comes from a partner's primary and you're doing your job of officiating hard in your primary, then you won't always (and shouldn't, many times) have any idea who caused the ball to go OOB.
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 09:09pm
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First, And Foremost, Blow The Whistle To Stop The Clock ...

From my pregame:

Out-Of-Bounds Help
For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. Come together for a change if needed. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional signal. No need to come to me. Just point. If I signal but I get it wrong, then blow the whistle and come to me. Tell me what you saw and let me decide if I’m going to change it.
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 09:33pm
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always a pregame topic. I agree with BillyMac on this one

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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 09:29am
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From my pregame:

Out-Of-Bounds Help
For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. Come together for a change if needed. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional signal. No need to come to me. Just point. If I signal but I get it wrong, then blow the whistle and come to me. Tell me what you saw and let me decide if I’m going to change it.
Agree with the above also. Or sometimes if I have no idea, I'll glance at my partner and he'll turn and run to the other end. We are then heading the other way...
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 12:09pm
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If this is happening mainly when you are lead, try and stand deeper off the baseline so you have a bigger peripheral view of the court. While that won't eliminate all of these occurrences, it may help you reduce the amount you miss.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 12:26pm
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If this is happening mainly when you are lead, try and stand deeper off the baseline so you have a bigger peripheral view of the court.
Last time I did that one of the cheerleaders invited me to an "after party"
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 08:54pm
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Last time I did that one of the cheerleaders invited me to an "after party"
Hope it was a college game!!!
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 10:12pm
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From my pregame:

Out-Of-Bounds Help
For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. Come together for a change if needed. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional signal. No need to come to me. Just point. If I signal but I get it wrong, then blow the whistle and come to me. Tell me what you saw and let me decide if I’m going to change it.
If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 10:39pm
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How About Thumbs Down For An Assistant Coach Sacrifice ???

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If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.
Thanks. I will add this to my pregame.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 10:51pm
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If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.
Good call Mick
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 12:24am
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If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.
Agree, I think it looks horrible to go for help, not get it, and then make a decision. It looks like you're guessing.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 08:04am
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If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.
I do and I hope that we all talk about this in pre-game, and we all mention that we are not shy about asking for help if we need it.

But I do not agree with the if you do not know give me the Thumbs up, what if your third has the only real view of the play?

So now you could have a scenario with the lead not knowing who last touched the ball so he looks to the trail who gives the thumbs up and you want to go alternating posession but the C steps in and gives infromation that says it is team A's ball.

We use the If you do not know lets get together and talk about it.
that way there is no visual signal that can get you in trouble later.
just my preference.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 08:21am
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I do and I hope that we all talk about this in pre-game, and we all mention that we are not shy about asking for help if we need it.

But I do not agree with the if you do not know give me the Thumbs up, what if your third has the only real view of the play?

So now you could have a scenario with the lead not knowing who last touched the ball so he looks to the trail who gives the thumbs up and you want to go alternating posession but the C steps in and gives infromation that says it is team A's ball.

We use the If you do not know lets get together and talk about it.
that way there is no visual signal that can get you in trouble later.
just my preference.
In your sitch, when Trail gives *Thumbs up*, you point to [or look to] Center for help and Center gives direction.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 08:23am
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If I come to you for help and you don't know, give me *Thumbs up*.
Strongly disagree. If you give the thumbs-up, then we're stuck with it. I may have an idea and be looking to see if you have a tip. If you give the thumbs-up, then my information (even if it's not 100%) goes out the window.

If you don't know, then that's all I need to know. I can then use the information I have, or I can go with the held ball myself.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 08:30am
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Strongly disagree. If you give the thumbs-up, then we're stuck with it. I may have an idea and be looking to see if you have a tip. If you give the thumbs-up, then my information (even if it's not 100%) goes out the window.

If you don't know, then that's all I need to know. I can then use the information I have, or I can go with the held ball myself.
Just ask if partner saw a tip.
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