T or no T! what do you think?

[Adam]

Personally, I'd handle it the same way you did in either the first or fourth quarter; don't worry about ending the game on the T or not. This is one of those times you either talk to him, or have his captain do it, or his coach.

Since you weren't sure who it was directed at I think a no-call is best. Now, if he's glaring at you as he does it, or he does it after you ask him for the ball, or he's done it earlier and you've talked to him; whack-a-mole time.

Not automatic, though, in my book.

[muxbule]

See "National Championship game" sitch very close to yours with a no call.

[Nevadaref]

Whack.

Doesn't matter why he did it.

You don't ajudge the why. You only ajudge the action.

[just another ref]

I don't think I could overlook this one. The action itself is bad enough, but it this particular situation apparently the player was not already holding the ball.

Team B rebounds with 2 seconds left, calls timeout. Drops ball and runs to bench.

So it seems that A1 picked the ball up just for the purpose of slamming it on the floor. I think this is over the line. An orchestrated display, in my opinion, is that much worse than one that is totally spontaneous.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I don't think I could overlook this one. The action itself is bad enough, but it this particular situation apparently the player was not already holding the ball.

So it seems that A1 picked the ball up just for the purpose of slamming it on the floor. I think this is over the line. An orchestrated display, in my opinion, is that much worse than one that is totally spontaneous.

JAR brings up an interesting point that puts another layer of complexity on this situation making it somewhat different from others we have discussed.

This is an overt act - to apparently go get the ball for the purpose of slamming it down in disgust/frustration, as opposed to a spontaneous reaction.

Each case must be judged on its own merit - and, right or wrong, you chose not to "T" in this case.

Side comment - First "T" I ever gave was a game I was forced into action for my son (12). I "T'd" HIM up for slamming the ball almost to the ceiling out of frustration - he knew better. Mom and GRANDPARENTS in the crowd. While the temp was pleasant outside, it was a somewhat cold and icy ride home.....

[mbyron]

In the other thread, I provided an example of a case where I would not whack. This is not it: I agree with JAR.

[GoodwillRef]

With the emphasis on sportsmanship this has to be a whack, the time and score doesn't matter. I would have a tougher time explaining to a coach the reasons I didn't whack him for his conduct. He went out of his way to go back and get the ball and slam it IMO this is a very easy whack.