Backcourt Question

[Back In The Saddle]

If you do not see, it is only because you choose not to.

"Actionless contest" clearly describes the OP's situation. 10-20-30 seconds? Of both teams doing nothing except ignoring the live ball? Some of the infractions listed in 10-1-5 delay the game less than this.

The phrase "this includes the following and similar acts" – as you are well aware – indicates this is an open-ended list, not in any way restricted to the specific infractions on the list.

That "allowing the game to develop into an actionless contest" is included in the rules, along with traveling and fouls and all the other infractions, means it is most definitely something. The removal of the Lack of Sufficient Action rule did not rid the rules of any and all requirements for a team to play basketball.

You still haven't answered my question: "How long would you be willing to continue officiating 'nothing'?"

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

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The phrase "this includes the following and similar acts," as you are well aware, indicates this is an open-ended list and not in any way restricted to the specific infractions on the list.

This is not as open ended as you might like. The "and similar acts" requires that the actions that you expand the list to include must be like one of those in the list. I can't see that this is anything like any of this listed items.

[Back In The Saddle]

No, certainly not entirely open-ended. But neither does "includes the following and similar acts" exclude other acts that "allow the game to develop into an actionless contest."

[jritchie]

I wonder if you started a count, just for the heck of it, would the offense pick it up, because they don't know why you are counting... I'm thinking I would give them a few seconds and then blow the whistle warn for delay both teams and start the throw in again.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by jritchie

I wonder if you started a count, just for the heck of it, would the offense pick it up, because they don't know why you are counting...

I think without a doubt they would pick it up in a hurry. I think what they wouldn't know is why you weren't counting.

[Adam]

Assume the players are confused, blow the whistle, and resume with POI.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

This is not as open ended as you might like. The "and similar acts" requires that the actions that you expand the list to include must be like one of those in the list. I can't see that this is anything like any of this listed items.

My take on "similar acts" leads me to believe that there are 100's of ways to have an "actionless contest"...which would make the rule book a little thicker to try and include everything.

The point of rolling the ball w/o touching it is to keep the clock from starting. The ball is stopped, the play has served it's purpose, now it's up to A to play on or be warned (or T'd).....IMO.