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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 01:23pm
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My first thought Marginal as intentional and it may have been excessive contact...

but then look what the defender does --he takes a quick look at him on the ground (almost a stare and walks away)... Soldifies in my mind he was not (and yes I know I will get beat up for this) a basketball play... Just on that quick look it almost looks like he as trying to punish him and would give me that I would need to make it intentional...

taken in totality above intentional was the right call... If they did not clean that one up, what would have happened with the retaliation on the other end...
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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 02:54pm
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My first thought Marginal as intentional and it may have been excessive contact...

but then look what the defender does --he takes a quick look at him on the ground (almost a stare and walks away)... Soldifies in my mind he was not (and yes I know I will get beat up for this) a basketball play... Just on that quick look it almost looks like he as trying to punish him and would give me that I would need to make it intentional...

taken in totality above intentional was the right call... If they did not clean that one up, what would have happened with the retaliation on the other end...
I can certainly go with that....contact alone doesn't clearly qualify for intentional...but post contact garbage can give insight in to upgrade it.
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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 02:57pm
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I can certainly go with that....contact alone doesn't clearly qualify for intentional...but post contact garbage can give insight in to upgrade it.
In NFHS, would that "post contact garbabge" warrant a techncial on the defender for taunting by him standing over the guy on the floor like that?
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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 03:23pm
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In NFHS, would that "post contact garbabge" warrant a techncial on the defender for taunting by him standing over the guy on the floor like that?
It certainly could.
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In NFHS, would that "post contact garbabge" warrant a techncial on the defender for taunting by him standing over the guy on the floor like that?
It could at the NCAA level as well.
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Even then he may not have seen the contact. He still would have been looking through the back of the defender.

Off-topic: I was searching for an image of the play and found the following...check-out the price on here. And remember "No Refunds":
$6 is '72 is equivalent to $30 in '08.

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In this video with the play in question at the :58s mark, the camera angle does have the L come right into the picture just after the contact. I'm not convinced the L didn't see this, unless the players really beat him down the court.
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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 02:17pm
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In this video with the play in question at the :58s mark, the camera angle does have the L come right into the picture just after the contact. I'm not convinced the L didn't see this, unless the players really beat him down the court.
You think the L could see the contact by B1's left forearm into A1's back? That was the only contact on the play. B1's right arm (closest to L) hit the rim.
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You think the L could see the contact by B1's left forearm into A1's back? That was the only contact on the play. B1's right arm (closest to L) hit the rim.
I was able to pause the video at the right spot - the defender turned slightly which I think blocked the L's view. I stand corrected.
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The L does appear to be trailing the play, but from his angle, I don't think he would have seen the forearm. But either way, where would he be looking? Probably looking up top for contact on the shooting arm. So he may not see the forearm in the back even if it were visible to him.

I don't see the C anywhere, but I agree that he should have the best look at this.

The T has the advantage of distance, and should be able to see the whole play, including the forearm and the body language afterward.
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Duke football now charges $140 for 7 home games in the season tickets package.
Yeah, but unfortunately, you may have to actually watch them play!

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$6 is '72 is equivalent to $30 in '08.
What's the formula?
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What's the formula?
I going to guess and say multiply by 5.
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What's the formula?
$6 * the rate of inflation for year after year until 2008.
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What's the formula?
I knew there was a formula:
CPI Inflation Calculator

1972: $6
2008: $31.09
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