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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 10:41am
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Obviously the coaching box has a defined width but does the coaching box have a defined depth? Do the officials really care if he is two rows back? I don't think they would care as long as he's not up in the media area looking at replays of a controversial call

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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 12:46pm
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Obviously the coaching box has a defined width but does the coaching box have a defined depth? Do the officials really care if he is two rows back? I don't think they would care as long as he's not up in the media area looking at replays of a controversial call

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Section 8 Art 1
The coaching box shall extend from the sideline to the back of the team benches and shall be bound by the end line and no farther than the 28-foot line as noted in the diagram.

Since he already had one class he isn't allowed out of the box to do anything they could have gotten him for it. Especially for coming back to the bench.
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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 01:33pm
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Section 8 Art 1
The coaching box shall extend from the sideline to the back of the team benches and shall be bound by the end line and no farther than the 28-foot line as noted in the diagram.

Since he already had one class he isn't allowed out of the box to do anything they could have gotten him for it. Especially for coming back to the bench.
Didn't know that. Sorry, I was too lazy to look it up

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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 01:44pm
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What bothers me about this whole situation is that the official supposedly said the coach's name to the table, not "white coach" or whatever color the uniform was. If I did that in a HS game (and I know so many coaches because they are sometimes football coaches or football officials and I work football as well) I would get downgraded and can kiss the postseason goodbye or forget about getting far into the postseason.
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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 02:04pm
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At least the sportswriter said the the coach said that the official said....
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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 05:23pm
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What bothers me about this whole situation is that the official supposedly said the coach's name to the table, not "white coach" or whatever color the uniform was. If I did that in a HS game (and I know so many coaches because they are sometimes football coaches or football officials and I work football as well) I would get downgraded and can kiss the postseason goodbye or forget about getting far into the postseason.
"He's the best official we've got, but of the 247 fouls he called this year one of them was reported incorrectly to the scorer. No playoffs for him."
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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 02:11pm
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"He's the best official we've got, but of the 247 fouls he called this year one of them was reported incorrectly to the scorer. No playoffs for him."
No, I was not saying an incorrect report, but rather what is considered an inappropriate report. The coaches can evaluate officials in Nebraska, and the state does send out evaluators. I've heard some officials got docked for using the coach's name in reporting the technical to the table instead of "blue head coach" (or whatever color his/her team is).
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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 03:42pm
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Me: "I've got a technical foul on the blue assistant coach."
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Me: "The obnoxious one. Oh wait, that doesn't narrow it down. Sorry."
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Old Thu Nov 20, 2008, 08:16pm
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What bothers me about this whole situation is that the official supposedly said the coach's name to the table, not "white coach" or whatever color the uniform was. If I did that in a HS game (and I know so many coaches because they are sometimes football coaches or football officials and I work football as well) I would get downgraded and can kiss the postseason goodbye or forget about getting far into the postseason.
I disagree with your philosophy. The team members have numbers, but the rest of the bench personnel do not. There is nothing wrong with specifying the offender. Had it been an asst coach how would you distinguish which one?

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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 02:06pm
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What I've been taught is you identify the assistant coach by what he/she is wearing or a description, and then if they want a specific name, then ask the head coach to assist you with that. I've always been told never to address a coach by his/her name, even if I know what their name is.

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Old Fri Nov 21, 2008, 04:06pm
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What I've been taught is you identify the assistant coach by what he/she is wearing or a description, and then if they want a specific name, then ask the head coach to assist you with that. I've always been told never to address a coach by his/her name, even if I know what their name is.
You'll find there's a split amongst even experienced officials. I never refer to a coach as anything but their first name. My feeling is that if I call them coach, it shows I can't even bother to remember their name. OMM (and does) V.
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