Unmerited free throw

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I see absolutely no rules justification to make this case ruling correct...

That's why I started the thread, JDW, and why I couldn't believe nobody jumped in when PaulK posted his answer with the case play citation.

I'm glad you found it, too.

[jritchie]

THERE WERE POINTS SCORED. Since you had an unmerited free throw, you cancel the throw and ANYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED DURING THE THROW THAT WAS UNMERITED UNLESS IT'S FLAGRANT, UNSPORTING, INTENTIONAL OR TECHNICAL. So I would take that as nothing has happened after the first free throw, is that maybe where they are getting the ruling, go with Alternating possesion?? They went back to the first free throw missing and therefore no team control, so go with arrow. Since the ball had not came in and no one still has no control, I would have to say go with the arrow on this one.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by jritchie

THERE WERE POINTS SCORED. Since you had an unmerited free throw, you cancel the throw and ANYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED AFTERWARDS UNLESS IT'S FLAGRANT, UNSPORTING, INTENTIONAL OR TECHNICAL. So I would take that as nothing has happened after the first free throw, is that maybe where they are getting the ruling, go with Alternating possesion?? They went back to the first free throw missing and therefore no team control, so go with arrow. Since the ball had not came in and no one still has no control, I would have to say go with the arrow on this one.

You don't cancel everything that happened after the error. You cancel what happens during the unmerited free throw (rebounding foul is about the only thing that would happen). B1 grabbing the ball for the throw in, making it live, which is after the error and therefore shouldn't be canceled.

The rules would have to make a distinction for POI between a throw in and after that same throw in. The rules make no such distinction, the error was recognized while B1 had the ball for a throw in, therefore the POI should be B's throw in.

[jritchie]

Sorry, didn't mean everything afterwards, just during unmerited throw, edited above! I guess I would have to agree that after the ball is live, since Team B has picked the ball up and was ready to throw it in, but I just don't think that it should be Team B's throw in unless that ball came in. Now after it came in, I would totally agree, but since it hasn't, I'm still wanting to go with the arrow in this one!

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Now after it came in, I would totally agree, but since it hasn't, I'm still wanting to go with the arrow in this one!

You may feel that is more fair, but it simply doesn't jive with the rules.

And, as many have pointed out here - the correctable error rules were not written to be fair.