loose ball situation

[OHBBREF]

A1 looses control of the ball and falls to the floor.
B1 dives for the loose ball also.
A1 cannot get her hands on the ball so she clamps both legs around the ball just as B1 puts her hands on the ball.

Both players call TO at the same time.

What you got?

[Raymond]

A violation on A1.

[rlarry]

Violation. kicking

[Raymond]

For an NCAA reference check A.R. 100.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

A1 looses control of the ball and falls to the floor.
B1 dives for the loose ball also.
A1 cannot get her hands on the ball so she clamps both legs around the ball just as B1 puts her hands on the ball.

Both players call TO at the same time.

What you got?

With all these questions, you must be taking a test.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

With all these questions, you must be taking a test.

just going through my old study materials and meeting questions to get my pre-games ready for this year, my last scrimage is Saturday, and the first NAIA games are Friday 10/31, so I thought I'd through out some of the more interesting stuff I had archived to see what came of it.

[NoFear]

If A1 ended the dribble after s/he losses it, then a, b, and c, are illegal.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by NoFear

If A1 ended the dribble after s/he losses it, then a, b, and c, are illegal.

Huh???????

Rule reference, please.......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by NoFear

If A1 ended the dribble after s/he losses it, then a, b, and c, are illegal.

I'm with coach. Are you sure you responded to the right thread?

[Spence]

Originally Posted by rlarry

Violation. kicking

Do we consider the act of wrapping one's legs around the ball to be "striking" the ball as it says in the rulebook?

[rlarry]

Yes. It is using the legs to secure the ball. I will admit this is my 1st year of college, so reading 2 rule books I can't find it for you. You want to use your legs play soccer.

Edit: NCAA Case Book: A.R 100
NFHS Rule Book 9.4 Where the rule uses the word strike, I believe is in regard to using the fist. With kicking it is intent

[Spence]

Originally Posted by rlarry

Yes. It is using the legs to secure the ball. I will admit this is my 1st year of college, so reading 2 rule books I can't find it for you. You want to use your legs play soccer.

Edit: NCAA Case Book: A.R 100
NFHS Rule Book 9.4 Where the rule uses the word strike, I believe is in regard to using the fist. With kicking it is intent

4-29 says kicking is the act of intentionally striking the ball with any part of the leg or foot.

9-4 says a player shall not "..., intentionally kick it as in 4-29...."

Are there interps that include "clutching the ball with one's legs" in the kicking category?

[rlarry]

Originally Posted by Spence

4-29 says kicking is the act of intentionally striking the ball with any part of the leg or foot.

9-4 says a player shall not "..., intentionally kick it as in 4-29...."

Are there interps that include "clutching the ball with one's legs" in the kicking category?

I don't want to argue with you but to your question, yes "clutching the ball with ones legs" involves intent

[Spence]

Originally Posted by rlarry

I don't want to argue with you but to your question, yes "clutching the ball with ones legs" involves intent

Not looking to argue. I'm a new ref and I just want to learn and interpret the rules correctly. My questions arose because there is no wording dealing with the "clutch" issue.

[Adam]

It's generally accepted that for this purpose, "clutching" is similar to "striking."