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 Many young officials let a coach go totally over the line and they learn from experience. One way to learn is ask as the OP has done and some of the responses have been very good. But some...
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I agree with the philosophy of taking care of all of 'em early if coach knows you're a rookie. He's likely just testing your limits. Good post. I like the variety of opinions here.
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HC depends how his demeanor is and if he has a question on a particular play.
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Top Reasons To Give A Technical Foul
Top Reasons To Give A Technical Foul
There are many different factors to consider when deciding to give a technical foul. Generally, there are three areas of coach's behavior that need attention: when a coach makes it personal, when a coach draws attention to himself or herself, and when a coach's complaints are persistent. Some technical fouls are easy. They are black and white situations that leave little room for negotiation: Using profanity or language that is abusive, vulgar, or obscene. A coach questions your integrity. Inciting an undesirable crowd reaction. A coach is embarrassing an official. A coach or player has been warned and has not heeded the warning. Leaving the confines of the coaching box and complaining. A coach demonstrates displeasure with your partner and their back is turned. Other technical fouls are not as black and white. In some situations, a warning may be appropriate before the technical foul is given: A coach or player continually demonstrates signals or asks for calls. If they have interfered with the game or your concentration, then they have usually gone too far. If giving a technical will help give structure back to the game and if it will have a calming effect on things. Original Source: The Greater Philadelphia Basketball Official's Association
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You suck.
Are you blind? WHACK!!! That call sucked. That was a garbage call. Not automatic as above. When a coach says "you" it takes on a different tone. "That call sucked" is not the same as "You suck" I'd judge the above based on what has gone on the rest of the game... If nothing so far then address verbally, if you have already addressed give the official warning -- past that maybe WHACK maybe ignore -- take the game situation into account. Quietly within earshot of no one but me in a non-hostile tone: "Geez, Spence, that was a B.S. call."(without using the initials) Probably not for me... Again, I would take the rest of the game into consideration. If that coach hadn't said much then this would probably just get a warning. If there had already been history this game then it might be a tech. Without even having read the rest of the thread other than the OP, I'm sure that many will say WHACK everything, but I think that we need to always consider our full range of responses rather than be a one-trick pony.
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I have three basic triggers that need to be addressed.
If these things happen, then you can either give a T or you can address in another way. This really comes with experience to know when or how to deal with these situations. Peace
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I know veterans who don't hit the big fat ones because they are afraid of losing votes or game or their poularity. That is a part of the learning process, as is asking for all of this great information.
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Good input.
Should I assume that if a coach is directing his/her comments towards my partner and my partner doesn't think its worthy of a T that I should not get involved even if I think its crossed the line?
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If it's an inappropriate gesture behind your partner's back, you probably wnat to get it.
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If your partner has already stuck him and he is still being an ahole, you might want to whack and dump him (this should be discussed in pregame). This way it doesn't give the perception that your partner had it in for him and was going to eject him no matter what. You are a team out there and this is one way of being a strong team member. Also, if you are working with a younger/ inexperienced or weak official you might have to whack him if your partner won't to keep control of the game and get the coach focused back on coaching. I might tell my partner at a deadball, that if he keeps it up he is going to have to get him, bc if he doesn't I am going to. Then see if he takes care of business. If not, take care of it yourself. Other than these examples, Bob's guidance is wise.
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