Clapping/Yelling

[Back In The Saddle]

Yep. Especially the chaplain. I always tell the teams in pre-game to have their chaplain keep his prayer beads quiet during free throws.

[OHBBREF]

NCAA case play on disconcertion
A.R. 187. The ball is at the disposal of free thrower A1. B1, within the
visual field of A1:
(1) Raises the arms above the head; or
(2) After the arms have been extended above the head, alternately
opens and closes both hands.
RULING: When the official judges the act in either (1) or (2) to be
disconcerting, the official shall assess a penalty. The burden not to
disconcert shall be that of the free thrower’s opponents.(Rule 9-1.2.f and 9-2.2)

[christianH]

This is an extract of from the FIBA Official Interpretations 2008

Statement 3
While a player is in the act of shooting, opponents shall not be permitted to disconcert that player
by actions such as waving a hand(s) to obstruct the shooter’s field of vision, shouting loudly,
stamping feet heavily or clapping hands near the shooter. To do so may result in a technical foul if
the shooter is disadvantaged by the action, or a warning if the shooter is not disadvantaged.
Example:
A4 is in the act of shooting for a goal when B4 attempts to distract A4 by shouting loudly or
stamping feet heavily of the floor. The shot for goal is:
(a) Successful.
(b) Unsuccessful.
Interpretation:
(a) A warning shall be given to B4 and shall be communicated to coach B. This warning shall
apply to all players of team B for the remainder of the game for similar behaviour.
(b) A technical foul shall be charged to B4.

[Oz Referee]

Originally Posted by ajs8207

During A1s shot, B1 yells or claps to try to distract A1. What do you have? Nothing? Technical? This has happened in a few games recently I have done. I have done nothing, but I thought it was wrong. What would you all do if this happened?

This was a point of emphasis for FIBA referees about 8 years ago (don't have my books handy). We were instructed to stop the game and give a warning to all players on the first occurance and then issue technical fouls for subsequent occurances.

IMHO players that do this are cheating. Even if it is not sepcifically mentioned in the rule book that you use, I believe that is certainly against the spirit of competition.


Edit: woops should have read all the responses before posting, ChristianH beat me to it

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Oz Referee

Should have read all the responses before posting, ChristianH beat me to it.

Been there. Done that. Many times. Perhaps you haven't checked out the Forum in a while, meaning that there are probably quite a few threads, including many multi-post threads, to check out. As you're catching up, you spot a post that you absolutely must respond to right away, and after doing so, continue to read some more recent posts in the same thread, to find out that another member has basically posted the same response as you.

[Oz Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Been there. Done that. Many times. Perhaps you haven't checked out the Forum in a while, meaning that there are probably quite a few threads, including many multi-post threads, to check out. As you're catching up, you spot a post that you absolutely must respond to right away, and after doing so, continue to read some more recent posts in the same thread, to find out that another member has basically posted the same response as you.

Thats me to a T (no, not that sort Padge). After probably 12 months of not looking at the forums, there is a lot of stuff to catch up on

[christianH]

Originally Posted by Oz Referee

We were instructed to stop the game and give a warning to all players on the first occurance and then issue technical fouls for subsequent occurances.

Hi guys,

so that is when I don't know what to do after a succesful shot. Shall I stop the clock before the throw-in at the endline?

And if the shot is not sucessful, unfortunately I will have to give a T straight away, causing a bit of commotion when the players and the coaches will all ask about my mother and relatives

[SmokeEater]

Yes Christian you are correct on both points!

[Adam]

I still can't believe FIBA is making this a T.

[Oz Referee]

why not? it is clearly unsportsmanlike behaviour, certainly against the spirit of fair competition. As a caoch of mine used to tell his players - how about you actually play defence?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Oz Referee

why not? it is clearly unsportsmanlike behaviour, certainly against the spirit of fair competition. As a caoch of mine used to tell his players - how about you actually play defence?

Maybe we have two different things in mind. I'm thinking of Christian's initial post here, where the defender is shouting "shot" to let his teammates know it's time to box out. We were always told to communicate on defense, and this was one way.
You gonna call a T on a player for shouting "Help" when he gets beat?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Oz Referee

defence

Oh, Oh.

I can't figure out which side of this issue I'm on. I guess that I'm sitting on de fence.

[Oz Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Oh, Oh.

I can't figure out which side of this issue I'm on. I guess that I'm sitting on de fence.

Must be a metric fence that you are sitting on

[christianH]

I am quite happy to overlook if a defender B5 who is away from the shooter A1 shouts 'shot' or 'help' even if this is done right at the time of shooting providing not too loudly and again the defender is not too close to the shooter...


However what I see in the local league and some national division 3 games is a man-on-man defence when the defender B1 yells SHOAAAAAAAT in the face of the shooter A1 spiting that nice and warm slobber at the shooter's face right at the time of shooting.

Would like to see your views guys.

[derwil]

SHOAAAAAAAT

Is that like BOAAAAAAAAAT?? LOL