OOB Throw In - Step on the line

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Bresquire

Now, i started asking this to officials last year i worked with , it was about a 50\50 split.

Assuming there is a definate line painted around the court, not just wood grain to a solid color to the wall. Although that helps my point a little if it painted like that.

When A1 goes to throw the ball in, steps on the painted line but does not touch the woodgrain of the court. Is this crossing the plane, or does the player indeed have to touch the grain of the court for crossing the plane, and thus losing the throw in.

I haven't found it in the book yet but my contention is on a live ball from the court as soon as you step on the line, the play is called dead. So on a dead ball throw in you are OOB and step on the line you are still OOB. Others have said on a dead ball, the line becomes the boundry for live or dead. What do you think.

Bresquire

Everyone so far has given you the correct answer, but no one has yet provided a rules citation, so here is what the NFHS Case Book says:

9.2.5 SITUATION:

Thrower A1 inadvertently steps onto the court inbounds. A1
immediately steps back into normal out-of-bounds throw-in position. The contact
with the court was during a situation: (a) with; or (b) without defensive pressure
on the throw-in team. RULING: A violation in both (a) and (b). COMMENT:

Whether or not there was defensive pressure or whether or not stepping on the
court was inadvertent, it is a violation and no judgment is required in making the
call.

[Adam]

Nevada, this case doesn't even mention the player stepping on the line, which was the OP. Secondly, this case is a violation; the OP is not.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nevada, this case doesn't even mention the player stepping on the line, which was the OP. Secondly, this case is a violation; the OP is not.

Hey, copy and paste is enough trouble. You expect him to read it, too?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nevada, this case doesn't even mention the player stepping on the line, which was the OP. Secondly, this case is a violation; the OP is not.

Duh! That's my point. This case clearly says that STEPPING INBOUNDS is what is illegal, which was definitely part of the OP's question: "...or does the player indeed have to touch the grain of the court for crossing the plane..."

So I was confirming his belief with a printed citation from the NFHS.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Everyone so far has given you the correct answer, but no one has yet provided a rules citation, so here is what the NFHS Case Book says:

9.2.5 SITUATION:

Thrower A1 inadvertently steps onto the court inbounds. A1
immediately steps back into normal out-of-bounds throw-in position. The contact
with the court was during a situation: (a) with; or (b) without defensive pressure
on the throw-in team. RULING: A violation in both (a) and (b). COMMENT:

Whether or not there was defensive pressure or whether or not stepping on the
court was inadvertent, it is a violation and no judgment is required in making the
call.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

This case clearly says that STEPPING INBOUNDS is what is illegal, which was definitely part of the OP's question: "...or does the player indeed have to touch the grain of the court for crossing the plane..."

So I was confirming his belief with a printed citation from the NFHS.

Fair enough, and only for the purpose of playing devil's advocate; this case play says nothing about a player stepping on the line. Knowing that stepping into the court is illegal does not tell us that stepping on the line is legal.

What it says is clear, what it implies is not so obvious.