Last second three?

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Lets change this up just a bit.

The score is tied. With 1 second left on the clock in the 4th quarter. On a layup attempt, after the release, but before A1 returns to the floor, A1 contacts B1 who has established legal defensive position. The shot bounces on the rim a bit and then A1 's shot goes in the basket after the horn sounds. Ruling?

I would be interested if this ruling would be different for FIBA, NFHS, & NCAA.

In FIBA the basket would count, since it was released before time expired; the foul on A1 is a common foul of the team not in control of the ball, so B1 shoots the bonus (if after the 4th foul in the period). However, if time expires before the contact between A1 and B1, the contact is ignored.

Note that the bonus free throws for B1 are to be shooted even if they cannot affect the outcome of the match. Your rule about this is much better.

Ciao

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I was doing a 8th grade girls game and A1 was fouled at the buzzer in the act of shooting. Team A was leading by two. I tooted, reported the foul and meekly said the game was over. A1 was almost bawling and wanted to shoot the free throws encouraged by a few parents and teammates.

It's been several years, and thousands, perhaps, tens of thousands of games since NFHS 5-6-2, Exception 3 was added to the rule book. How long will it be until this happens.

Team A leads Team B 65 to 50, with a few seconds to go in the game. It's the last game of the season for Team A, they didn't win enough games to qualify for any conference, or state tournament. A1, a senior, who a few minutes ago scored his 997th career point, is fouled in the act of shooting a two point try at the final buzzer, with the ball in flight, when the horn sounds. 0:00.0 on the clock, and a final buzzer. Count the basket, Team A is ahead 67 to 50, and A1 has scored his 999th point. The Team A coach told you during the third period intermission that A1 was close to scoring his 1000th career point and that when he did, he wanted a timeout to present A1 with the game ball. How many of you would approve the final score and leave the visual confines of the playing area, leaving A1 with 999 points?

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Team A leads Team B 65 to 50, with a few seconds to go in the game. It's the last game of the season for Team A, they didn't win enough games to qualify for any conference, or state tournament. A1, a senior, who a few minutes ago scored his 997th career point, is fouled in the act of shooting a two point try at the final buzzer, with the ball in flight, when the horn sounds. 0:00.0 on the clock, and a final buzzer. Count the basket, Team A is ahead 67 to 50, and A1 has scored his 999th point. The Team A coach told you during the third period intermission that A1 was close to scoring his 1000th career point and that when he did, he wanted a timeout to present A1 with the game ball. How many of you would approve the final score and leave the visual confines of the playing area, leaving A1 with 999 points?

So you are asking how many people would cheat to allow A1 to score more points after the game was over so that he could break a record? I would hope no one. It is not the official's job to make sure that one guy is able to score a lot of points. If you want to make sure this guy breaks some record why not just call a lot of fouls on B when he is shooting during the entire game?

[Adam]

In my game, he walks away from this game with 999 points. It wouldn't be fair to the other record holders to give him an extra-legal way of getting to 1000, for one.

For two (and more importantly); I don't care how many points someone scores, I only care that the game is played by the rules.

[tjones1]

I'm walking away, too. The game is over and I've got the rules to support my action.

[Back In The Saddle]

He scored 999 points? That's amazing. Actually sounds more impressive than 1000. Not that I care. I'm heading to the locker room.

[just another ref]

999 points!! Not in one game, that would be a record. ***










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Kenny Mayne
ESPN

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

In my game, he walks away from this game with 999 points. It wouldn't be fair to the other record holders to give him an extra-legal way of getting to 1000, for one.

That's the way I would do it. If this was a home game for A1, I might want a police escort to my car after the game.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's been several years, and thousands, perhaps, tens of thousands of games since NFHS 5-6-2, Exception 3 was added to the rule book. How long will it be until this happens.

Team A leads Team B 65 to 50, with a few seconds to go in the game. It's the last game of the season for Team A, they didn't win enough games to qualify for any conference, or state tournament. A1, a senior, who a few minutes ago scored his 997th career point, is fouled in the act of shooting a two point try at the final buzzer, with the ball in flight, when the horn sounds. 0:00.0 on the clock, and a final buzzer. Count the basket, Team A is ahead 67 to 50, and A1 has scored his 999th point. The Team A coach told you during the third period intermission that A1 was close to scoring his 1000th career point and that when he did, he wanted a timeout to present A1 with the game ball. How many of you would approve the final score and leave the visual confines of the playing area, leaving A1 with 999 points?

Lesseee....A caring coach....a senior leader.......clock winding down on his career......needs 3 points to hit 1000......and he's firing up a 2 point attempt at the buzzer?????

I doubt it.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Lesseee....A caring coach....a senior leader.......clock winding down on his career......needs 3 points to hit 1000......and he's firing up a 2 point attempt at the buzzer?????

I doubt it.

Maybe he's stuck inside the arc and tried to draw a foul?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Team A leads Team B 65 to 50, with a few seconds to go in the game. It's the last game of the season for Team A, they didn't win enough games to qualify for any conference, or state tournament. A1, a senior, who a few minutes ago scored his 997th career point, is fouled in the act of shooting a two point try at the final buzzer, with the ball in flight, when the horn sounds. 0:00.0 on the clock, and a final buzzer. Count the basket, Team A is ahead 67 to 50, and A1 has scored his 999th point. The Team A coach told you during the third period intermission that A1 was close to scoring his 1000th career point and that when he did, he wanted a timeout to present A1 with the game ball. How many of you would approve the final score and leave the visual confines of the playing area, leaving A1 with 999 points?

With the score 65 to 50, he's gonna gonna really have to get clobbered to get the foul called.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by just another ref

With the score 65 to 50, he's gonna gonna really have to get clobbered to get the foul called.

Do the math...how many T's would coach A have to earn to get B enough attempts to warrent a possible 18 FT's and extend the game?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I'm 95% sure that NCAA-W is the same as NFHS on this. Actually, I just looked at the rulebook. I'm 100% sure. No basket, no free throws for NCAA-W.

No basket, no free throws??? Are we talking about the orginal post at the top if the ball is released prior to the horn sounding and B1 fouls A1 on the shot attempt???

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

No basket, no free throws??? Are we talking about the orginal post at the top if the ball is released prior to the horn sounding and B1 fouls A1 on the shot attempt???

Not the same play. I was responding to this:

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

Lets change this up just a bit.

The score is tied. With 1 second left on the clock in the 4th quarter. On a layup attempt, after the release, but before A1 returns to the floor, A1 contacts B1 who has established legal defensive position. The shot bounces on the rim a bit and then A1 's shot goes in the basket after the horn sounds. Ruling?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Not the same play. I was responding to this:

Okay, just checking!!!!!