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Old Fri Oct 03, 2008, 09:39pm
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Note also the timeouts will be taken concurrently rather than consecutively.
Citation please.

Also. Let's say that A1 and B1 bang heads, and start bleeding. Coaches, and trainers, are beckoned onto the court, and all come out onto the court to attend to their players. Coach A decides, in only a few seconds, to take a 60 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto A1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 60 seconds, all players on Team A, including the properly bandaged A1, are ready to play ball. Meanwhile, the coach, and trainer, from Team B take a lot more time to "check out" B1's condition, while B1, Coach A, and Trainer A, are still on the court. After a full minute passes, Coach B decides to take a 30 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto B1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 30 seconds, all players on Team B, including the properly bandaged B1, are ready to play ball.

Is this a correct scenario? If so, aren't these consecutive timeouts? I'm not sure, so again, citations please.
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Old Sat Oct 04, 2008, 12:09am
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Citation please.

Also. Let's say that A1 and B1 bang heads, and start bleeding. Coaches, and trainers, are beckoned onto the court, and all come out onto the court to attend to their players. Coach A decides, in only a few seconds, to take a 60 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto A1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 60 seconds, all players on Team A, including the properly bandaged A1, are ready to play ball. Meanwhile, the coach, and trainer, from Team B take a lot more time to "check out" B1's condition, while B1, Coach A, and Trainer A, are still on the court. After a full minute passes, Coach B decides to take a 30 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto B1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 30 seconds, all players on Team B, including the properly bandaged B1, are ready to play ball.

Is this a correct scenario? If so, aren't these consecutive timeouts? I'm not sure, so again, citations please.
I believe that all players need to be properly attended to prior to any subs. Therefore, Team A cannot take a timeout or sub prior to to B1 being at least at the team's bench.

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Old Sat Oct 04, 2008, 02:40am
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Citation please.

Also. Let's say that A1 and B1 bang heads, and start bleeding. Coaches, and trainers, are beckoned onto the court, and all come out onto the court to attend to their players. Coach A decides, in only a few seconds, to take a 60 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto A1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 60 seconds, all players on Team A, including the properly bandaged A1, are ready to play ball. Meanwhile, the coach, and trainer, from Team B take a lot more time to "check out" B1's condition, while B1, Coach A, and Trainer A, are still on the court. After a full minute passes, Coach B decides to take a 30 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto B1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 30 seconds, all players on Team B, including the properly bandaged B1, are ready to play ball.

Is this a correct scenario? If so, aren't these consecutive timeouts? I'm not sure, so again, citations please.

In the same section that dictates they run concurrently is the requirement that a full t/o must be taken to keep an injured/bleeding player in the game. There is a specific exception that allows for a 30 to be expended if no full to's are remaining. If you have a full to and you want to keep the injured player in the game, you must use it.
The scenario you described above would only be legal ONLY if Team B had no full to's
available. Play would resume at the end of the full to granted to team A.

BTW, been almost a week for you? Any DTs or other side effects of withdrawal?
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Old Sat Oct 04, 2008, 03:21am
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In the same section that dictates they run concurrently is the requirement that a full t/o must be taken to keep an injured/bleeding player in the game. There is a specific exception that allows for a 30 to be expended if no full to's are remaining. If you have a full to and you want to keep the injured player in the game, you must use it.
The scenario you described above would only be legal ONLY if Team B had no full to's
available. Play would resume at the end of the full to granted to team A.

BTW, been almost a week for you? Any DTs or other side effects of withdrawal?
COMPLETE DOO-DOO!!!

The requirement to use a full time-out, if one is available, is for a coach's request regarding a correctable error. That is detailed in 5-11-3.

That article has nothing at all to do with injured/bleeding players.

When the NFHS introduced the rule to allow injured/bleeding players to remain in the game with a time-out back in 2002-03, they included a comment in the back of the book. The first sentence of that comment was: "This change permits a player who is required to leave the game for blood or injury to remain in the game if the team calls a time-out (60 or 30-second) and the situation can be corrected by the end of the time-out."

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Old Sat Oct 04, 2008, 06:23am
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Citation please.

Also. Let's say that A1 and B1 bang heads, and start bleeding. Coaches, and trainers, are beckoned onto the court, and all come out onto the court to attend to their players. Coach A decides, in only a few seconds, to take a 60 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto A1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 60 seconds, all players on Team A, including the properly bandaged A1, are ready to play ball. Meanwhile, the coach, and trainer, from Team B take a lot more time to "check out" B1's condition, while B1, Coach A, and Trainer A, are still on the court. After a full minute passes, Coach B decides to take a 30 second time out, which is granted, to put a bandage onto B1's cut, and takes all his players to his bench area during the time out. After 30 seconds, all players on Team B, including the properly bandaged B1, are ready to play ball.

Is this a correct scenario? If so, aren't these consecutive timeouts? I'm not sure, so again, citations please.
First, I can't find the cite. Not sure where it is; maybe an NFHS interp rather than a case play? Maybe I'm wrong?

Second, the coaches both have to make their decision prior to any timeouts being granted.
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