Multiple foul?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Straight from the summary of penalties:
Multiple Foul:
(a) One free throw for each foul:
(1) No try involved.
(2) Successful or unsuccessful two-point try or tap.
(3) Successful three-point try or tap.
(b) Two free throws for each foul:
(1) Intentional or flagrant foul.
(2) Unsuccessful three-point try or tap.
Plus ball for throw-in if intentional or flagrant.

Great answer. Seemed to be right on the tip of your tongue. How many multiple fouls have you called recently?

For me, it seems that whenever a situation arises where there might be a multiple foul, one foul always occurs a few fractions of a second before the other one.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

For me, it seems that whenever a situation arises where there might be a multiple foul, one foul always occurs a few fractions of a second before the other one.

By rule, this doesn't really matter. 4-4-11 uses the phrase "at approximately the same time." Also, in the case of a shooter, the most common time a multiple foul would occur, the first foul would not cause the ball to become dead.

Not that I've ever called a multiple....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

By rule, this doesn't really matter. 4-4-11 uses the phrase "at approximately the same time." Also, in the case of a shooter, the most common time a multiple foul would occur, the first foul would not cause the ball to become dead.Not that I've ever called a multiple

Thanks for the citation. Let me fix my recent post:

For me, it seems that whenever a situation arises where there might be a multiple foul, one foul always occurs a second, or more, before the other one.

I've been doing this for twenty-seven years, never called a multiple foul, never had a partner call a multiple foul, never saw a multiple foul called in a game. I've officiated over 700 high school games, as well as a ton of middle school, travel, recreation games, etc, and I've watched a lot of games both before, and after, my games. Why do you think it is that I've never seen a multiple foul called?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks for the citation. Let me fix my recent post:

For me, it seems that whenever a situation arises where there might be a multiple foul, one foul always occurs a second, or more, before the other one.

Still irrelevant.....approximately is not confined to a specific time frame.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've been doing this for twenty-seven years, never called a multiple foul, never had a partner call a multiple foul, never saw a multiple foul called in a game. I've officiated over 700 high school games, as well as a ton of middle school, travel, recreation games, etc, and I've watched a lot of games both before, and after, my games. Why do you think it is that I've never seen multiple foul?

Not becasue they don't happen but becasue we choose to call only one. I've seen what technically qualifies as a multiple foul several times...even several times in one game. Have I ever called one? No.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not because they don't happen but because we choose to call only one. I've seen what technically qualifies as a multiple foul several times...even several times in one game. Have I ever called one? No.

Why not?

And when we chose not to call them, when we see what "technically qualifies as a multiple foul" (your words), what do we tell the coach who wants two shots for his, or her, multiply fouled player?

[lpneck]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Why not?

And when we chose not to call them, when we see what "technically qualifies as a multiple foul" (your words), what do we tell the coach who wants two shots for his, or her, multiply fouled player?

You know people are itching for the season to start when they want to argue about what to say to a coach who is begging for a multiple foul.

[Adam]

If coach asks for a multiple foul? Are you serious? Billy, in all your 27 years of not calling this, have you ever had a coach ask why?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Why not?

And when we chose not to call them, when we see what "technically qualifies as a multiple foul" (your words), what do we tell the coach who wants two shots for his, or her, multiply fouled player?

Nothing. They'll never ask. The only time I can imagine them being interested in two fouls, and the only time I'd call multiple fouls, would be when both are so blatant that they can't be ignored....intentional/flagrant fouls, for example.