For FIBA officials (new rule)

[Jay R]

Guys,

I brought up this question two months by saying that the rule did not seem to be specific enough. The people who responded here did not think there would be a problem.

Well the season has started. This weekend, there was a game where a turnover led to a clear path to the basket by Team A. Team B defender hustled and tried to block the lay up from behind and committted a foul. The official called a common shooting foul on Team B. Team A coach wants an unsportsmanlike foul because he says that's how they're calling it in his zone.

The official who made the call asked our provincial interpretor for clarification. Our Prov. int. says that it can be an unsportsmanlike foul because it falls under the definition of Rule 36.1.4. The interpretor from a neighbouring province has indicated on their website that once the act of shooting begins, revert to previous rule (in other words, only call UNS foul if the contact is excsssive etc...)

My point two months ago was that FIBA made a rule change with little guidance as to how to apply it. It is one of the frustrations of officiating wioth FIBA rules IMHO.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Jay R

Guys,

I brought up this question two months by saying that the rule did not seem to be specific enough. The people who responded here did not think there would be a problem.

Well the season has started. This weekend, there was a game where a turnover led to a clear path to the basket by Team A. Team B defender hustled and tried to block the lay up from behind and committted a foul. The official called a common shooting foul on Team B. Team A coach wants an unsportsmanlike foul because he says that's how they're calling it in his zone.

The official who made the call asked our provincial interpretor for clarification. Our Prov. int. says that it can be an unsportsmanlike foul because it falls under the definition of Rule 36.1.4. The interpretor from a neighbouring province has indicated on their website that once the act of shooting begins, revert to previous rule (in other words, only call UNS foul if the contact is excsssive etc...)

My point two months ago was that FIBA made a rule change with little guidance as to how to apply it. It is one of the frustrations of officiating with FIBA rules IMHO.

Our instructors pointed out from the beginning that a fastbreak ends when the act of shooting begins. Under this interpretation, the purpose of the rule is to penalize fouls made in order to stop too easily a fastbreak; when the shooting motion begins, the goal of the fastbreak has been reached.

It would have been better if FIBA had issued precise guidelines about this, I agree. Actually there are other grey zones. Someone says that the rule applies only to the ball carrier (I don't agree). Another question: when does the fastbreak really begins?

An example for the first case. A player steals the ball on the right side of their back court and, after starting a fast dribble, makes a long pass to the left side of the court where a teammate is running; a defender, from behind this player, tries to deflect the pass just as it is reaching them, but makes contact. There's no other defender from that point to the basket. This contact would normally be judged a legitimate action for playing the ball: must it be deemed unsportsmanlike in this case? I think so, others don't.

Ciao