Come backs for Coaches

[Y2Koach]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Whenever a coach wants to dispute my interpretation of a rule, I tell him that I have a rule book in my bag and we can look it up. If he's right, I'll give him ten bucks, but if I'm right, he has to go out into the parking lot and wash my car.

I've never had a coach take me up on this yet.

I do the same thing, but I'm a coach. and I HAVE had officials take me up on it, but I've found that officials really hate it when I'm right, and use a rule book to prove that I'm right. I actually got a technical foul several years back for showing my players on the bench a rule in the rulebook that the official just kicked (point of interuption after a double foul), and the official gave me the technical foul because I was "undermining his authority". I replied "your lack of knowledge of the rules undermined your authority" and then followed it up with "are you thinking about if what I just said deserves a second technical? go ahead, take your time."

I've matured since those days, haha.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

I do the same thing, but I'm a coach. and I HAVE had officials take me up on it, but I've found that officials really hate it when I'm right, and use a rule book to prove that I'm right. I actually got a technical foul several years back for showing my players on the bench a rule in the rulebook that the official just kicked (point of interuption after a double foul), and the official gave me the technical foul because I was "undermining his authority". I replied "your lack of knowledge of the rules undermined your authority" and then followed it up with "are you thinking about if what I just said deserves a second technical? go ahead, take your time."

I've matured since those days, haha.

I would have T'd you too. Maybe even given you a free pass. Even if you're right - leave the damn book hidden.

And that's a see-ya. You deserve to go. Such a bad example, it isn't funny.

Just my 2 cents.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

I do the same thing, but I'm a coach. and I HAVE had officials take me up on it, but I've found that officials really hate it when I'm right, and use a rule book to prove that I'm right. I actually got a technical foul several years back for showing my players on the bench a rule in the rulebook that the official just kicked (point of interuption after a double foul), and the official gave me the technical foul because I was "undermining his authority". I replied "your lack of knowledge of the rules undermined your authority" and then followed it up with "are you thinking about if what I just said deserves a second technical? go ahead, take your time."

I've matured since those days, haha.

I would have T'd you up as well. You would not like it if I stopped the game and brought a rulebook out on you to show you what you did not know. That is very unprofessional on your part.

That is my 10 cents.

Peace

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

I do the same thing, but I'm a coach. and I HAVE had officials take me up on it, but I've found that officials really hate it when I'm right, and use a rule book to prove that I'm right. I actually got a technical foul several years back for showing my players on the bench a rule in the rulebook that the official just kicked (point of interuption after a double foul), and the official gave me the technical foul because I was "undermining his authority". I replied "your lack of knowledge of the rules undermined your authority" and then followed it up with "are you thinking about if what I just said deserves a second technical? go ahead, take your time."

I've matured since those days, haha.

I hope so.

Because on that day, you were a first-class a$$hole.

I would have tossed you before you made it to "take your time".

[Y2Koach]

Haha, point taken... "Listen coach, I may be wrong, and don't know the rule, but you shouldn't let others know, just keep it between you and me"... so do you guys think it would be acceptable for an official to challenge a coach to a wager with the rulebook in the middle of a game?

It seems to me what you are saying is that the officials can use the rulebook to tell a coach he is wrong, but a coach can't do the same? I'd think it would be more important for the refs to know the rules, no?

I know the "proper" way to handle it in some of your eyes would be to discuss it with the assignor after the game, but that may benefit the officials but definitely not the game play.

Can't wait for the season to start. The local association will be breaking in some newer officials at one of our scrimmages in the pre-season.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

... so do you guys think it would be acceptable for an official to challenge a coach to a wager with the rulebook in the middle of a game?

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Nope. It's wrong for the official to do it - even as a joke - and it's wrong for you to do it as a coach. It shows a tremendous lack of civility on both parts. Just my honest opinion.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

It seems to me what you are saying is that the officials can use the rulebook to tell a coach he is wrong, but a coach can't do the same?

Who said that it's ok for an official to pull out a rulebook to tell a coach he's wrong?

And BillyMac, "Lighten up, Francis" is a reference from the movie: Stripes.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Smitty

And BillyMac, "Lighten up, Francis" is a reference from the movie: Stripes.

That's it. You just made the list.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

That's it. You just made the list.

I want to party with you, man!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I want to party with you, man!

Just don't touch my stuff. Nobody touches my stuff.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

That's it. You just made the list.

And that's the fact, Jack !!

[grunewar]

"Chicks dig me, because I rarely wear underwear and when I do it's usually something unusual. But now I know why I have always lost women to guys like you. I mean, it's not just the uniform. It's the stories that you tell. So much fun and imagination."

"Lee Harvey, you are a madman. When you stole that cow, and your friend tried to make it with the cow. I want to party with you, cowboy. If the two of us together, forget it. I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I'm gonna volunteer my leadership to this platoon. An army without leaders is like a foot without a big toe. And Sergeant Hulka is always gonna be here to be that big toe for us. I think that we owe a big round of applause to our newest, bestest buddy, and big toe... Sergeant Hulka."

Mark - are you our "big toe?"

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

so do you guys think it would be acceptable for an official to challenge a coach to a wager with the rulebook in the middle of a game?

No. Mark P. talks about that, but I'm pretty sure that he's just kidding about actually doing it. It's unacceptable for either the coach or official to pull out a rulebook and try to prove the other wrong during a game. It's basically an attempt to embarrass the other person, IMHO.

After the game, in a different setting with no spectators, no problem.