Fight scenario

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The FED already clarified it. Casebook play 10.4.5SitE makes it clear that FT's from different categories can cancel.

JR,
That play only makes it clear that 8b(1) can cancel with 8b(2), but not that 8a can offset any penalties from 8b(1) or 8b(2). In other words, on-court players cancel on-court players, and off-court team members can cancel other off-court team members, but we don't know if we can mix the two groups--on-court with off-court.

I've asked my state rep who is on the NFHS rules committee to get a formal ruling, but in the meantime thanks for your comments.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

JR,
That play only makes it clear that 8b(1) can cancel with 8b(2), but not that 8a can offset any penalties from 8b(1) or 8b(2). In other words, on-court players cancel on-court players, and off-court team members can cancel other off-court team members, but we don't know if we can mix the two groups--on-court with off-court.

I've asked my state rep who is on the NFHS rules committee to get a formal ruling, but in the meantime thanks for your comments.

8b(1) and 8b(2) are different categories.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

8b(1) and 8b(2) are different categories.

I've always considered them subcategories of the same general one, which is team members leaving the bench during an altercation.

Of course, this really reduces to the semantics of our terminology so I'd rather not argue about it. I'll just wait until I get a formal ruling from the NFHS committee, and then I'll pass that along. Note that I don't care which way we do it, I just want to know the specific way in which we are supposed to handle it.