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Old Tue Jul 22, 2008, 01:42pm
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What does that even mean?
Isn't it obvious?

Coach: "You blew that call!"
Official: "No, I didn't, my pants did."
Coach: " "
(Official escapes unharmed...)
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2008, 01:47pm
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Isn't it obvious?

Coach: "You blew that call!"
Official: "No, I didn't, my pants did."
Coach: " "
(Official escapes unharmed...)

Ahhh. Well don't I feel like a moron now. Thanks for clearing it up.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2008, 01:50pm
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Isn't it obvious?

Coach: "You blew that call!"
Official: "No, I didn't, my pants did."
Coach: " "
(Official escapes unharmed...)
Maybe, but throwing his pants under the bus like that is a horrible way to build a partnership.
And those pants will never make the playoffs.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2008, 02:54pm
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What often separates the HS from the college refs is no more desire to work that level and the time to devote to travelling long distances to officiate a college game. Oh yeah and ego........maybe a little flair and bravado, maybe better communication with the coaches and players....maybe good PR skills......my opinion is based on having met and spoken to some D1 and D2 officials. I work high school because I don't have the time to devote to college yet. But that may change.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2008, 04:52pm
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What often separates the HS from the college refs is no more desire to work that level and the time to devote to travelling long distances to officiate a college game.
Often? Maybe. Just as often, it's talent, ability and hard work.

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Oh yeah and ego........
Oh yeah, because we've never met a high school official with a huge ego. I'm sorry to be overly sarcastic, but I am so tired of hearing this. As a college guy who gets an occasional D2 game, I work with many many MANY more down-to-earth, easygoing, easy-to-get-along-with guys than head cases. Are there college officials with overblown egos? Absolutely. Are there just as many high-school-only officials with equally overblown egos? I've met my share.

I'm not putting down high school officials, because roughly a third of my schedule each year is still high school games. I do tire, however, of hearing my high school brethren pontificate on the egos of my college brethren. I've never heard a college guy say that a high school guy is less of an official or less talented because he only works high school games. When I've heard critical comments about high school officials from college officials, the comments are about mechanics, judgment, appearance, etc. Never about level of games.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2008, 08:12pm
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Often? Maybe. Just as often, it's talent, ability and hard work.

Oh yeah, because we've never met a high school official with a huge ego. I'm sorry to be overly sarcastic, but I am so tired of hearing this. As a college guy who gets an occasional D2 game, I work with many many MANY more down-to-earth, easygoing, easy-to-get-along-with guys than head cases. Are there college officials with overblown egos? Absolutely. Are there just as many high-school-only officials with equally overblown egos? I've met my share.

I'm not putting down high school officials, because roughly a third of my schedule each year is still high school games. I do tire, however, of hearing my high school brethren pontificate on the egos of my college brethren. I've never heard a college guy say that a high school guy is less of an official or less talented because he only works high school games. When I've heard critical comments about high school officials from college officials, the comments are about mechanics, judgment, appearance, etc. Never about level of games.
Well said. That's exactly why I was wondering what the real point of this thread was. Personally, I'd rather we accent the positive about our fellow officials...no matter the level worked... rather than looking for things to cringe at.
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Old Tue Jul 22, 2008, 08:42pm
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Often? Maybe. Just as often, it's talent, ability and hard work.

Oh yeah, because we've never met a high school official with a huge ego. I'm sorry to be overly sarcastic, but I am so tired of hearing this. As a college guy who gets an occasional D2 game, I work with many many MANY more down-to-earth, easygoing, easy-to-get-along-with guys than head cases. Are there college officials with overblown egos? Absolutely. Are there just as many high-school-only officials with equally overblown egos? I've met my share.

I'm not putting down high school officials, because roughly a third of my schedule each year is still high school games. I do tire, however, of hearing my high school brethren pontificate on the egos of my college brethren. I've never heard a college guy say that a high school guy is less of an official or less talented because he only works high school games. When I've heard critical comments about high school officials from college officials, the comments are about mechanics, judgment, appearance, etc. Never about level of games.
Some of the biggest egos I run up against are those of high school officials. Because many high school officials think they know every damn thing even though they might not be very accomplished at the high school level. For the most part most college officials are very confident individuals, but very easy to work with and for the most part are willing to work with just about anyone. I have had more big time high school officials try to big time me by referencing their state final accomplishments or they Sectional they worked. I only work a handful of college games and my vast majority of games are from the high school realm. I worked a 3 overtime game back in December with two very big time college and former state final officials and that was one of the easiest games to work because no one brought and inflated ego to the game. Both were very easy to work with and both made me feel as if I was just one of the group and both could have easily big timed me or acted like I had no business being at this game with them.

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Old Wed Jul 23, 2008, 11:37am
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and by the way I didn't mean inflated ego......I didn't mean ego necessarily in a negative way...when you deal with a coach like Bobby Knight you might need something a little extra in ego.
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