Personal Foul - Out of Bounds?

[BillyMac]

The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin, the defender’s team will receive a team warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team warning will be recorded. If the defender fouls the inbounding player after breaking the imaginary plane, it is an intentional personal foul, and a team warning will be recorded.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin, the defender’s team will receive a team warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team warning will be recorded. If the defender fouls the inbounding player after breaking the imaginary plane, it is an intentional personal foul, and a team warning will be recorded.

Billy,
It seems that you may need to amend this one for the NFHS level.
What happens if the defender breaks the boundary plane AFTER the thrower has released the ball?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What happens if the defender breaks the boundary plane AFTER the thrower has released the ball?

Good question.

NFHS 4-42-5: The throw-in ends when the passed ball touches, or is touched by, another player who is either inbounds or out of bounds.

My guess.

No contact. Violation, warning, or technical foul, if already given one of the four delay warnings. However, if the throwin is successful, I might chose to ignore it, and speak to the offending player about it. I won't ignore it a second time after speaking to the offending player.

Contact. An even better question. I still say intentional personal foul if the throwin hasn't ended, by the above definition.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. What's your story?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Good question.

NFHS 4-42-5: The throw-in ends when the passed ball touches, or is touched by, another player who is either inbounds or out of bounds.

My guess.

No contact. Violation, warning, or technical foul, if already given one of the four delay warnings. However, if the throwin is successful, I might chose to ignore it, and speak to the offending player about it. I won't ignore it a second time after speaking to the offending player.

Contact. An even better question. I still say intentional personal foul if the throwin hasn't ended, by the above definition.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. What's your story?

I think that you should take a hard look at 9-2-10.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I think that you should take a hard look at 9-2-10.

9-2-10: The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.

Good point. So, with no contact, it's not a violation.

With contact, I still say intentional personal foul.

[BillyMac]

Nevadaref: Thanks. How's this?

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10) The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin before the ball has been released on a throw-in pass, the defender’s team will receive a team warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team warning will be recorded. If the defender fouls the inbounding player after breaking the imaginary plane, it is an intentional personal foul, and a team warning will be recorded.

[Nevadaref]

That's a big improvement.
The point that I wished to make is that the NFHS rule is different from the NCAA one. Many people don't know that subtle point.