What is the forum?

[Dan_ref]

Whoa... cue Twilight Zone music...

[Back In The Saddle]

I hate it when random hackers do that

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Actually, for what it's worth, Juulie Downs, formerly known as the rainmaker, didn't write that post. Someone must have hacked into that particular user name and posted it as a dig. Juulie wouldn't even have known it was there, since Juulie has basically quit reading the forum. But Juulie received a personal e-mail with a comment in it. So Juulie came and checked it out. Juulie comments,

"Fact is, I don't feel that I'm too good to associate with any of you. But I will admit to being very, very tired of the abuse and mis-construction. Thus the hiatus.

Nevada reads some emotion in the post, and I admit I had some emotion a few weeks ago when his list of "best games" and my emendation thereto were posted. Talk about mis-understanding!! But those emotions are resolved now. I've moved on. The person who hacked in under my name has apparently not realized that even strong emotions can be handled over a period of time.

I do think this board would be better and more interesting if a wider variety of people were allowed to be themselves. I do understand, however, that there's nothing I can do to cause that to happen. I'm bored with the current set of self-expressions, and I"ll be moving on.

Knowing that my user name is now compromised, I won't be using it anymore. If I do decide to post again, I'll find something different to use. Perhaps something anonymous, but I'll see."

Wow!!!

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Juulie's new user name is Howard Mayo. (inside Portland joke)

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Juulie's new user name is Howard Mayo. (inside Portland joke)

Any relation to OJ?

(Isn't there a player named OJ Mayo?)

[theboys]

I am compelled to respond to Juulie's comments.

I used to be a semi-active participant in the forum. Like Juulie, I grew tired of the mean-spiritedness of many of the posts so decided to quit participating. No big loss. Heck, I'm not even a referee. But, I will say, I used to tell referee friends about this website. Not anymore. I'm afraid they'd be treated like so many others have been.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by theboys

I am compelled to respond to Juulie's comments.

I used to be a semi-active participant in the forum. Like Juulie, I grew tired of the mean-spiritedness of many of the posts so decided to quit participating. No big loss. Heck, I'm not even a referee. But, I will say, I used to tell referee friends about this website. Not anymore. I'm afraid they'd be treated like so many others have been.

OH YEAH!!! Why don't you just take your comments and..... er, never mind.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by theboys

I am compelled to respond to Juulie's comments.

I used to be a semi-active participant in the forum. Like Juulie, I grew tired of the mean-spiritedness of many of the posts so decided to quit participating. No big loss. Heck, I'm not even a referee. But, I will say, I used to tell referee friends about this website. Not anymore. I'm afraid they'd be treated like so many others have been.

I think there is still value in the forum, but the best years have in fact gone by. "Back in the day", imho, the forum was better. At least on the basketball side...

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by theboys

I am compelled to respond to Juulie's comments.

I used to be a semi-active participant in the forum. Like Juulie, I grew tired of the mean-spiritedness of many of the posts so decided to quit participating. No big loss. Heck, I'm not even a referee. But, I will say, I used to tell referee friends about this website. Not anymore. I'm afraid they'd be treated like so many others have been.

Interesting comment.

I've only been involved in the Forum for a few yrs, but I certainly understand the recent comments as above.

For me, the good threads, rules interpretations, advice and comments far outweigh the bad. While I'll occasionally try to inject some sarcasm or humor, I just choose to take the bad with the good and not participate in the negative banter - I just ignore it as best I can.

It would truly be sad though if we didn't get rookies/newbies referred to the site or have others who stumbled upon the site, not use it because they were intimidated, bullied, or insulted. JMO

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by grunewar

It would truly be sad though if we didn't get rookies/newbies... because they were intimidated, bullied, or insulted. JMO

You mean like they are going to be treated on the court?
The purpose of this forum is to teach people about officiating, and that has to include everything, not just the fine points of the rules.

If a person can't take the disagreement and some name-calling on an internet discussion forum, how is he going to handle it during a live game? It is an unfortunate aspect of officiating that one either learns to deal with or one quits because of it. In fact, several studies have shown that the primary reason that newer officials quit is abuse from fans and coaches.

So what difference does it make if someone learns that officiating isn't for him from here or on the court?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Interesting comment.

I've only been involved in the Forum for a few yrs, but I certainly understand the recent comments as above.

For me, the good threads, rules interpretations, advice and comments far outweigh the bad. While I'll occasionally try to inject some sarcasm or humor, I just choose to take the bad with the good and not participate in the negative banter - I just ignore it as best I can.

It would truly be sad though if we didn't get rookies/newbies referred to the site or have others who stumbled upon the site, not use it because they were intimidated, bullied, or insulted. JMO

Once again, welcome to the internet. That goes on at every site I have been to with many subject focuses. People say a lot of things on the internet they would never say in person. And frankly, if you are an official and you cannot handle someone taking you to task here, then officiating is going to be very difficult. It is not the job of this site to mold brand new officials. This site is to discuss officiating and everyone is not going to agree on many aspects of our avocation. Honestly, people that come here need to lighten up when most of these people you will never meet, never work with and will never have to face them for officiating purposes. Why would you care if someone is saying things to you here? I can tell you what they say in real life will be a lot harsher.

Peace

[Cajun Reff]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's happened, actually. Specifically, on the following play.

Team B scores. A1 grabs the ball to make a throwin, but never steps out of bounds before throwing to A2 who proceeds up the court.

link me to that thread snaq

I actually had this happen twice last season

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Cajun Reff

link me to that thread snaq

I actually had this happen twice last season

No need for the thread. It'll just confuse the issue.

This rule and case book play is the result of our discussions and would apply today.

9-2-2
The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court from out-of-bounds so it touches or is touched by another player (inbounds or out of bounds) on the court before going out of bounds untouched.

9.2.2 SITUATION C:
A1 scores a basket. After the ball goes through the net, B1 grabs it and makes a move toward the end line as though preparing to make a throw-in. However, B1 never legally steps out of bounds, both feet remain inbounds. B1 immediately passes the ball up the court to a fast-breaking teammate, who scores a basket.

RULING: Cancel Team B's goal, throw-in violation on B1. The ball was at B1's disposal after the made basket to make a throw-in. B1 must be out of bounds to make a legal throw-in. (7-4-3; 7-5-7)

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

This rule and case book play is the result of our discussions and would apply today.

9-2-2
The ball shall be passed by the thrower directly into the court from out-of-bounds so it touches or is touched by another player (inbounds or out of bounds) on the court before going out of bounds untouched.

9.2.2 SITUATION C:
A1 scores a basket. After the ball goes through the net, B1 grabs it and makes a move toward the end line as though preparing to make a throw-in. However, B1 never legally steps out of bounds, both feet remain inbounds. B1 immediately passes the ball up the court to a fast-breaking teammate, who scores a basket.

RULING: Cancel Team B's goal, throw-in violation on B1. The ball was at B1's disposal after the made basket to make a throw-in. B1 must be out of bounds to make a legal throw-in. (7-4-3; 7-5-7)

Wait a minute. Helpful, respectful, basketball knowledge being shared? Here? In the basketball forum? I thought we weren't doing that anymore?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Wait a minute. Helpful, respectful, basketball knowledge being shared? Here? In the basketball forum? I thought we weren't doing that anymore?

Shut up.