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Old Fri Apr 11, 2008, 10:58pm
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Your medical opinion is of no relevance. If that is what her doctor told her to wear, she wears it. It may be that the type of support/protection she needed only happened to come in that size...or the medical supply place was out of the shorter one. It's not for us to ask why the medical appliance manufacturer didn't make it smaller or why the clerk didn't order more of the smaller. If a doc says she needs to wear it (and it is no safety hazard) it is a medical device, not part of the uniform....and the uniform rules don't apply to it.

As for why have the ruling....it keeps it from becoming a free-for-all with no reason. If it somehow gets abused and it becomes a problem, worry about it then.
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Old Sat Apr 12, 2008, 12:41am
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Yup, interesting. Your state made a ruling that directly contradicts NFHS rules. Casebook play 3.5.6.SitB asks if it's legal for a player because of religious reasons to wear tights under the basketball uniform shorts . The RULING states "NFHS basketball rules do not require that the uniform pants be "shorts". However, undergarments or tights may NOT may not be worn which extend below the pants, therefore wearing tights "below the uniform shorts" would be illegal. The player could wear pants or a skirt as the uniform "bottom" and be in compliance."

It's kinda interesting that a state would issue a ruling that is completely contradictory to a very explicit and definitive FED ruling. My first thought is usually to wonder if whoever issued that state ruling was actually aware of the relevant NFHS ruling. Be that as it may, they still have the right to amend rules, even though they might face FED sanctions for doing so.
I will tell you why that ruling was given. Is it better to follow a rule from an organization or is it better to deal with a lawsuit that the NF will never have to defend? I think staying out of a legal battle over religion is much better.

Unless the NF is going to defend every legal challenge to defend this rule then and only then I become upset over this interpretation.

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Old Sat Apr 12, 2008, 12:50am
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Old Sat Apr 12, 2008, 11:21am
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Please don't turn this into a HS thread. If you wish to discuss the NFHS rule, please start another thread. I wish this one to remain focused solely on the NCAA rule.
First of all, I was responding to a post regarding high school situations by giving my own experience. Second of all, if you want that much control, maybe you could propose a rule change to the board allowing all thread starters to be able to moderate their own threads.
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Old Sat Apr 12, 2008, 11:48am
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Second of all, if you want that much control, maybe you could propose a rule change to the board allowing all thread starters to be able to moderate their own threads.
That option already exists. If the thread-starter deletes his opening post, the whole thread will disappear. That's the ultimate moderation.
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Old Sat Apr 12, 2008, 12:18pm
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I really don't get all the angst about this long-sleeved shirt - well, at least all the angst from one person. The NCAA is the governing body. They make the rules. It is also within the scope of their power to make exceptions to those rules. That's what they did. So what's the big deal???

Here's another example...I do not allow my students to wear hats in my classroom. The kids know this and take their hats off when they come in. Last year I had a 13 year old student who had to go through chemo and radiation treatments. She lost her hair. When her mom called and asked me about wearing a hat in class, I immediately said yes. See, it's my rule and I made an exception for that particular case.

So I ask again...what is the big deal?
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Old Sat Apr 12, 2008, 02:23pm
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I really don't get all the angst about this long-sleeved shirt - well, at least all the angst from one person. The NCAA is the governing body. They make the rules. It is also within the scope of their power to make exceptions to those rules. That's what they did. So what's the big deal???

Here's another example...I do not allow my students to wear hats in my classroom. The kids know this and take their hats off when they come in. Last year I had a 13 year old student who had to go through chemo and radiation treatments. She lost her hair. When her mom called and asked me about wearing a hat in class, I immediately said yes. See, it's my rule and I made an exception for that particular case.

So I ask again...what is the big deal?
She must have been a star player.
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Old Sat Apr 12, 2008, 03:27pm
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She must have been a star player.
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Old Sun Apr 13, 2008, 12:37pm
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COOL! IDK why you're making such a big fuss anyway. NCAA officials have told you that exceptions are made for medical conditions and you want to argue, when I'm pretty sure you don't work college basketball. Then, you start telling others what they can post. WTF is your problem?
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Old Mon Apr 14, 2008, 07:57am
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It the National Championship, on national television, with 3 of the best officials, and with every conference supervisor in attendance.

I doubt Candace Parker snuck on the court and all of a sudden she appears with a long-sleeved white shirt and nobody knew what was going on.
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Old Mon Apr 14, 2008, 09:03am
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It the National Championship, on national television, with 3 of the best officials, and with every conference supervisor in attendance.

I doubt Candace Parker snuck on the court and all of a sudden she appears with a long-sleeved white shirt and nobody knew what was going on.
Heck....she wore that long-sleeved undershirt in the semi-final game as well!
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Old Tue Apr 15, 2008, 11:09am
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The shirt was legal. The rule states that she can't wear a shirt extending below the elbows. She just has really low elbows. See, no problem.
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Old Tue Apr 15, 2008, 01:56pm
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The shirt was legal. The rule states that she can't wear a shirt extending below the elbows. She just has really low elbows. See, no problem.
Hey, good interpetation....dblref!
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Hey, good interpetation
I've heard that some people don't know their a** from their elbow. I guess that others don't know their wrist from their elbow.

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