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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 02:09pm
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Wow........how could you miss the game? Work, family stuff?
Don't rub it in.
I commute about 2 1/2 hours a day, so try to spend time with the kids when I'm home. It's a sacrifice I don't intend to have to make next year.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 02:21pm
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Don't rub it in.
I commute about 2 1/2 hours a day, so try to spend time with the kids when I'm home. It's a sacrifice I don't intend to have to make next year.
You can watch the game on your computer at ncaasports.com as it will be archived for about the next twenty days.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 02:24pm
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I'm glad they cut down on the ads even though there were still too many. I hope CBS got ripped for their earlier games because the amounts of breaks was absurd.
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I'm glad they cut down on the ads even though there were still too many. I hope CBS got ripped for their earlier games because the amounts of breaks was absurd.
People can "rip" them all they want. CBS contracted to pay the NCAA so much to broadcast the games and they will sell an amount of ad space so as to make a profit. As long as the ratings hit certain numbers, this is how it will be in the future. I doubt the ratings will suffer because people think there's too many ads. Either there will be enough ads to make a profit, or no one will carry the games because they're not going to do it at a loss.

I think over the years, the public has developed a kind of "entitlement mentality" toward certain things. There's no "inherent right" to see sports on television. This is still a capitalistic society, thank goodness.

"The business of America is business".

OK - I'll get off my soapbox for now.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 03:30pm
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Mark, this ranks with your best posts ever. Well said.
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Nah, it was serious, topical, and otherwise a worthy contribution to the forum.
Frankly, I'm disappointed in him.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 04:11pm
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Nah, it was serious, topical, and otherwise a worthy contribution to the forum.
Frankly, I'm disappointed in him.
I thought he could use some encouragement.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 04:26pm
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Nah, it was serious, topical, and otherwise a worthy contribution to the forum.
My wife saw this post, then looked at me and said, "OK - who are you and what have you done with my husband?"
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 07:48pm
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People can "rip" them all they want. CBS contracted to pay the NCAA so much to broadcast the games and they will sell an amount of ad space so as to make a profit. As long as the ratings hit certain numbers, this is how it will be in the future. I doubt the ratings will suffer because people think there's too many ads. Either there will be enough ads to make a profit, or no one will carry the games because they're not going to do it at a loss.

I think over the years, the public has developed a kind of "entitlement mentality" toward certain things. There's no "inherent right" to see sports on television. This is still a capitalistic society, thank goodness.

"The business of America is business".

OK - I'll get off my soapbox for now.

And I have the ability to do as I usually do.....set the PVR to record the game and start watching it about 1/2 way through....skipping all the commercials!! They have the right to put the ads in the show just as much as I have the right to not watch them.

Ultimately, I know that this viewing habit (when multiplied across millions) will have the effect of lowering the value per minute of commercial time but that is not my concern.
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Ultimately, I know that this viewing habit (when multiplied across millions) will have the effect of lowering the value per minute of commercial time but that is not my concern.
It will also have the effect of removing any profit from the business of broadcasting sports on TV...which will ultimately lead to it's disappearance.
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It will also have the effect of removing any profit from the business of broadcasting sports on TV...which will ultimately lead to it's disappearance.
If anything, the value per minute of sports programming should be up relative to overall programming, as people are much more likely to watch sports live as opposed to other programming. It's the sitcoms and reality TV that are most impacted by the TIVO craze (in which I'm happy to participate).

Sports programming won't go away - but expect to see more and more advertising injected directly into the broadcast, rather than in traditional commercials. That means superimposed images, more quick spots by the announcers, etc. Pretty soon we'll probably have "This travel brought to you by Coca-Cola!"
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Old Wed Apr 09, 2008, 11:41am
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It will also have the effect of removing any profit from the business of broadcasting sports on TV...which will ultimately lead to it's disappearance.
It may cause the broadcasting to rebalance the ad/program ratio so that it is not as annoying to watch. (The ads per hour ratio has gone up in the last couple of decades). Once it gets to a tolerable level, the motivation to skip them all decreases. Once there are fewer, those will be more valuable.

INteresting fact on this:

(from http://www2.sims.berkeley.edu/resear...broadcast.html)
For many years, most large TV stations and the major networks subscribed to the Code of Good Practices of the National Association of Broadcasting, which established limits on the number of commercial minutes that could be telecast each hour. The limits were voluntary but widely followed: 9 1/2 minutes of commercials during primetime; higher amounts during other times of night and day. In 1992, however, the guidelines were ruled a violation of Federal antitrust law. Throughout the industry, most pledged to continue the limits - but gradually that eroded, as networks added more ad time. Prime time today has an average of 15 minutes of ads per hour. The FCC regulates advertising only during children's programming: 10.5 minutes/hour on weekends, 12 minutes/hour on weekdays.
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Old Wed Apr 09, 2008, 03:49pm
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It will also have the effect of removing any profit from the business of broadcasting sports on TV...which will ultimately lead to it's its disappearance.
Someone has to be Mr. Grammar Guy on this one.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2008, 02:25pm
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Don't rub it in.
I commute about 2 1/2 hours a day, so try to spend time with the kids when I'm home. It's a sacrifice I don't intend to have to make next year.
On a lesser note, I have a twelve year old son who knows every player on every team, every coach and even the nuances of a Steve Welmer. I made the mistake of letting a friend come over to watch the game last night and he yakked the whole time, much of it nothing about basketball. My son and I have been to final fours, World Series, All star games etc. and we sit and WATCH the game. Any dialogue we have is involving the game itself. So when my friend during the last two minutes asks 'Who's that big guy who plays on North Carolina"? My son almost puked, I ruined our 'mens club' night. Next year, just him and I.

I applaud you for being a Dad first. You got it right.
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Don't rub it in.
I commute about 2 1/2 hours a day, so try to spend time with the kids when I'm home. It's a sacrifice I don't intend to have to make next year.
You're getting rid of the kids????
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