Strange non mechanic

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Watching Tenn. A&M last night and late in game ball goes out on baseline, couldn't tell off who. Lead literally looked at it for what seemed 4-5 seconds with no reaction and finally signalled. She appeared to be yelling something at a player prior to the signal and not who's ball it was. Strangest thing I've seen all year.

Anybody see it? Maybe I missed something.

Actually the official seemed more to be yelling who the ball was off of. This is just another reason why I hate the women's mechanics not at the very least using a stop clock as apart of their mechanics. That is different than using the stop clock as an option rather than just eliminating it all together. Even on the Men's side there is a lot of not using the stop clock, but when they do not see the play, it is clear they have their hand up. I do not think she was yelling at anyone, she just did not know how to raise her arm to think about what she just called.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What's the men's mechanic for seeking help?

Men don't ask for help. They just continue with what they are doing until they figure it out.

[BillyMac]

For out-of-bounds help, let's get it right. Come together for a change if needed. If I have no idea and I look to you for help, just give a directional signal. No need to come to me. Just point. If I signal but I get it wrong, then blow the whistle and come to me. Tell me what you saw and let me decide if I’m going to change it.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually the official seemed more to be yelling who the ball was off of. This is just another reason why I hate the women's mechanics not at the very least using a stop clock as apart of their mechanics. That is different than using the stop clock as an option rather than just eliminating it all together. Even on the Men's side there is a lot of not using the stop clock, but when they do not see the play, it is clear they have their hand up. I do not think she was yelling at anyone, she just did not know how to raise her arm to think about what she just called.

Peace

You obviously saw it. It looked very bizarre to me, I was saying to myself, do something. It sure looked awkward on TV. I agree, put your hand up....do somethin'

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

You obviously saw it. It looked very bizarre to me, I was saying to myself, do something. It sure looked awkward on TV. I agree, put your hand up....do somethin'

I guess I have been around a little longer. It was not as bizarre and that is why I think she was just yelling what her choice was. She was doing the same thing many of us do but she did not have her hand up which at the very least would have made it look better.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I guess I have been around a little longer. It was not as bizarre and that is why I think she was just yelling what her choice was. She was doing the same thing many of us do but she did not have her hand up which at the very least would have made it look better.

Peace

I got more than a few years on you and have always been a good observer of officials even before I started reffing. I might be embellishing with the bizarre adjective, it was more like it just caught my attention.

She seemed to over compensate with yelling color/team. it took all her energy to bark it out. That said, after that it still took her a few seconds to point. She looked upset.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I got more than a few years on you and have always been a good observer of officials even before I started reffing. I might be embellishing with the bizarre adjective, it was more like it just caught my attention.

That might be true.

My point is I have seen this either by officials I have worked with or by watching them. And it is one thing to watch officials than to work with officials that have done the very thing. It really was not that bizarre or unusual as you think. I have seen it even in HS games were officials are trying to figure out which way they are going. Sometimes they raise their arm, sometimes they do not.

Originally Posted by fullor30

She seemed to over compensate with yelling color/team. it took all her energy to bark it out. That said, after that it still took her a few seconds to point. She looked upset.

I cannot speak for her being upset. I did not personally see that. My point is it seemed like she was collecting her barring. And because Women's basketball does not advocate the "stop clock signal" in almost all situations, she got caught in an extra long delay. If this was a HS or Men's game then the official would have likely had their hand and arm up.

[blindzebra]

The strangest part to me was I thought they got it wrong, looked pretty clear that the ball went off the Rutgers player's foot.

It was one of many calls that had me going, "What the heck," the last 15 minutes or so.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

The strangest part to me was I thought they got it wrong, looked pretty clear that the ball went off the Rutgers player's foot. It was one of many calls that had me going, "What the heck," the last 15 minutes or so.

I like the language in your post. You seem to be giving the officials the benefit of the doubt, yet still have an opinion that is opposite of their call. A lot of fans, coaches, and some officials, posting on this Forum, often just say "Wrong, wrong, wrong". Period. Especially if the call goes against "their team".

Only officials can appreciate how difficult it is to officiate a perfect game, no matter how good you are, no matter how good your partner(s) are (is). A man named John quoted one of my favorite people as saying, “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.” There is also a well-known Native American saying, “One must walk a mile in another's moccasins to truly understand their ways.”