UCLA luckiest team in the country

[Texas Aggie]

The ball must pass completely over from front to back or back to front, the shot went across the corner.

The rule says "any direction." Your statement is false.

[gazou]

In FIBA, it is legal, as long as it does not touch any of the supports of the backboard.

[lpbreeze]

I'm glad the basket counted because it looked like a great play. I just saw that Bird play two days ago. I think they said they didn't count it at first and then counted it after talking.
Perhaps they could change the rule to only if the offensive player is in the key. Otherwise it seems really difficult to tell. every kid practices that type of shot going over the backboard from the side. Underneath should be illegal

[blindzebra]

The casebook uses the words passes directly over.

To me directly is intended to mean directly from the front to the back or directly from the back to the front and not over the corner.

I have a difficult time believing that shot passed DIRECTLY over the backboard, because it didn't.

I'd bet that had that shot not had enough air under it it would have struck the side of the backboard and not the back, and for it to fit the directly over stipulation it would need to strike the back.

[Nevadaref]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/notebo...book/atr080309

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Why no T on UCLA for coming on to the floor with 0.1 remaining?

Also, they should've reset the clock all the way to 1.5 due to the violation.

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

Why no T on UCLA for coming on to the floor with 0.1 remaining?

Also, they should've reset the clock all the way to 1.5 due to the violation.

Could have easily been a T.
Can't have a violation without a touch. With a touch some time has to come off, as in 0.3 seconds to leave it at 1.2.

[Dan_ref]

http://ballhype.com/video/crazy_ucla_cal_finish/

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

The casebook uses the words passes directly over.

To me directly is intended to mean directly from the front to the back or directly from the back to the front and not over the corner.

I have a difficult time believing that shot passed DIRECTLY over the backboard, because it didn't.

I'd bet that had that shot not had enough air under it it would have struck the side of the backboard and not the back, and for it to fit the directly over stipulation it would need to strike the back.

Imagine the backboard extended out the top to the ceiling...any spot on that extended backboard is directly over the backboard. If the ball passes through that extended backboard in any direction, it has passed over the backboard. The only question that is unanswered is how much of the ball? Any part? The center? The whole thing?

Me? I'm not calling it if it is just the edge of the ball....but will call it if it is the center but a little of the ball is still outside the plane of the backboard.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'm not calling it if it is just the edge of the ball, but will call it if it is the center but a little of the ball is still outside the plane of the backboard.

I got it all figured out:

[Dan_ref]

Billy,

Your goaltending sitch is correctable and is an AR under ncaa 2.11 (correctable error rule).

[Larks]

You Tube Versions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXTQRCt8Zu4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfze65_u0c0

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

The rule says "any direction." Your statement is false.

The rule is "The ball shall be out of bounds when it passes over the backboard
from any direction."

It is the "passes over" part that needs to be looked at. I don't think that you can say that the UCLA shot "passed over" the backboard necessarily. It was barely over the corner of the backboard.

I have never seen that called as an OOB and don't think it should be. The two D1 officials I discussed the play with last night did not think so either -- and one of them is on the Pac 10 roster (not in that game though).

Also, others are correct that this is not a reviewable play.

In my view, the officials got it right and the ESPN commentators are making a big deal out of something that they know nothing about.

Also, Doug Gottlieb is a complete douchebag for his comments about Dave Libbey last night.

That is all.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Brad

Also, Doug Gottlieb is a complete douchebag for his comments about Dave Libbey last night.

Gottlieb was a douchebag before that comment, but he's not the douchebag of the universe, right Jurassic?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Gottlieb was a douchebag before that comment

True ... good point.