Tenn/UF--giving help outside your area but getting it right

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Evidently some of you have big, red "S"s on your chests.

Might be that.

Might also be that some of you have tiny little red "JV"s on your chest.

just sayin'

[Jurassic Referee]

Hmmmmmm.........

I wonder how long this thread would be by now if the crew didn't get the call right. You know, if the Gators hadda got the ball on the missed call, hit a 3 at the horn to tie it and then won it in OT.

Just wondering.......

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Hmmmmmm.........

I wonder how long this thread would be by now if the crew didn't get the call right. You know, if the Gators hadda got the ball on the missed call, hit a 3 at the horn to tie it and then won it in OT.

Just wondering.......

I'm sure most of the posts would have been to congratulate the crew for not ball watching, staying in their area and missing this huge call that the rest of the planet saw.

Right? No?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I'm sure most of the posts would have been to congratulate the crew for not ball watching, staying in their area and missing this huge call that the rest of the planet saw.

Right? No?

My (serious) opinion?

There are absolutely no absolutes when it comes to officiating. Sometimes, the best thing for the game and the crew under certain circumstances might be to ballwatch, go out of our area, etc. This call might be a pretty good example of that. In end-of-close game situations, you had damn well better be ready to help each other out, whether it's on anticipated TO requests, last-second shots, screwed-up throw-ins, etc. You can set up so that you can look through your area to help out too.

In this particular situation, a veteran crew did what they had to do to avoid possibly causing one humongous cluster-f**k. Great job on their part imo.

If they hadda strictly adhered to the usual mechanics, we'd now be reading one heckuva lot of articles from the usual empty suits wondering how they coulda missed such an obvious call.

Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do.

Jmo.

[Cajun Reff]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I'm sure most of the posts would have been to congratulate the crew for not ball watching, staying in their area and missing this huge call that the rest of the planet saw.

Right? No?

ok this made me chuckle

I dont see what the big deal is, if I am in the C in a press situation I try to look as wide at the court as i possibly can to see what is in front of (my primary) and what is in the background (the T's primary). If I happen to catch something that my partner missed then so be it, to me that is good officiating and just because Kitts saw the ball go OOB doesnt necessarily mean he was "ball watching" perhaps he was just being observant.

What would everyone be saying if the T got blocked/knocked out of the play, didn't get an angle on the OOB, he looked to the C for help and the C wasn't looking wide at the backcourt? I bet some on this board would say that the C was looking too narrow at his own primary and not helping his partner in an obvious press situation.

The most important thing is they got it RIGHT, everything else is secondary

[Mendy Trent]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Hmmmmmm.........

I wonder how long this thread would be by now if the crew didn't get the call right. You know, if the Gators hadda got the ball on the missed call, hit a 3 at the horn to tie it and then won it in OT.

Just wondering.......

Well hopefully the conversation would be about the referee who administered the throw-in being too close to the play.

The trouble with calling out of your area is that that usually those calls are wrong. Sounds like they got it right this time, but the percentage of missed calls when one calls out of one's area is very high.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mendy Trent

The trouble with calling out of your area is that that usually those calls are wrong. Sounds like they got it right this time, but the percentage of missed calls when one calls out of one's area is very high.

Methinks you missed the point that I was trying to make. I wasn't advocating ball-watching or calling out of your area.

Circumstances sometimes dictate what needs to be done out there, and we as officials should be ready to adjust to those circumstances. And that's exactly what happened in this play imho.