T on fan

[Overnbach]

First round of state varsity boys basketball playoffs. Visitor goes up by four with four seconds left in overtime. Home coach is granted a time out. An excited fan runs out of the stands behind the visitor bench and into the visitor huddle, maybe six feet on the floor, to high-five his buddies. Officials call a T....I don't know on whom, was it an indirect on the coach?

Have you seen anything like this? Would you do this? FYI, I was a fan of the home team, and the T was to our benefit, so this is not a rant. (We lost.)

[Jurassic Referee]

The technical would have to be a team technical foul called for crowd behavior. Personally, there is nowayinhell I would ever call a technical foul on a fan in this situation.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The technical would have to be a team technical foul called for crowd behavior. Personally, there is nowayinhell I would ever call a technical foul on a fan in this situation.

I agree with JR 100% on this one. No way I'm calling a T in that situation.

I may have them removed by game mgmt depending on the situation and what actually happened.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I may have them removed by game mgmt depending on the situation and what actually happened.

Any fan that comes on the floor should be removed by game management automatically, without the officials even having to mention it.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Any fan that comes on the floor should be removed by game management automatically, without the officials even having to mention it.

Sure, though that doesn't always happen and I've learned on this board never to say always.

[Scrapper1]

That's a bad T.

[Forksref]

The fan didn't interfere with play. No T. Only asking for trouble.

As for game management removing a fan, lot's of luck! Most of the time you can't FIND the game management, they're at the concession stand or in their office or in the lobby. And, if they are available, they are usually so weak that they don't know what to do.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Forksref

As for game management removing a fan, lot's of luck! Most of the time you can't FIND the game management, they're at the concession stand or in their office or in the lobby. And, if they are available, they are usually so weak that they don't know what to do.

At the varsity level? In a playoff game? Glad I don't work where you do? In my last association (I'm between associations now having moved again), gm would have been all over that even in a jv game.

[Junker]

I agree that it should be a game management problem. There is a possibility that this was something the state wanted taken care of in their pregame. It is my understanding (not experience yet) that in some parts, including mine, someone from the state handles the pregame, not the officials that are working. The officials may have been specifically instructed to take care of this with a whistle. I have no idea if this was the case, but it may be a possibility.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Forksref

The fan didn't interfere with play. No T. Only asking for trouble.

As for game management removing a fan, lot's of luck! Most of the time you can't FIND the game management, they're at the concession stand or in their office or in the lobby. And, if they are available, they are usually so weak that they don't know what to do.

In general you're correct. I had a situation this year with a belligerent fan who needed to be removed from the facility. I called the game administrator over and, as I went to point the fan out, the fan self-deported. I asked the administrator to be sure the fan found the exit and didn't come back. You would have thought I gave him the keys to the candy store. He "jumped to it" with great enthusiasm and we didn't see that fan again. Wish all administrators were all like that.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Personally, there is nowayinhell I would ever call a technical foul on a fan in this situation.

Originally Posted by jdw3018

No way I'm calling a T in that situation.

Originally Posted by Forksref

The fan didn't interfere with play. No T. Only asking for trouble.

What they said.

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by Overnbach

First round of state varsity boys basketball playoffs. Visitor goes up by four with four seconds left in overtime. Home coach is granted a time out. An excited fan runs out of the stands behind the visitor bench and into the visitor huddle, maybe six feet on the floor, to high-five his buddies. Officials call a T....I don't know on whom, was it an indirect on the coach?

Have you seen anything like this? Would you do this? FYI, I was a fan of the home team, and the T was to our benefit, so this is not a rant. (We lost.)

Same thing happened in the NBA last night in Lebron's 50 point game.
A fan came to the huddle and was trying to high five Lebron and was promptly escorted out by security. It did take a second for security to respond....maybe because he was wearing a Cleveland - Lebron jersey.

[bigdogrunnin]

NO WAY, NO HOW!! NO "T"!!!! Game administrator please accompany this fan to the door. Thank you!!!!

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by socalreff

Same thing happened in the NBA last night in Lebron's 50 point game.
A fan came to the huddle and was trying to high five Lebron and was promptly escorted out by security. It did take a second for security to respond....maybe because he was wearing a Cleveland - Lebron jersey.

Glad security was able to figure out who was LeBron and who was the fan.