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"Just because it's always been done that way....." is the subtle discrimination of which I speak. No one can say it isn't there.
If one doesn't like girls' basketball, that's alright, no problem. Do boys basketball. If one doesn't like boys' basketball, that's alright, no problem. Do girls basketball. But I do think it's unhealthy thinking in an organization to say that one has to "move up" from doing girls' basketball. It isn't a matter of individual preference. It's the wholesale attitude of the organization that we have a problem with. Rita |
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I don't think there is anything anyone can say to win this argument. When someone isn't as experienced, they do girl's varsity before boy's varsity. When someone can't move like they used to, they do girl's varsity after doing boy's varsity (previously). You can call it what you want and argue all day, I don't think any official on this board can really change the way things are.
All this is true unless you live in a ________ state where you have to do double ___________ headers. In that case you basically do the same amount. Being in the military and moving around frequently is the worst thing that has happened to me as an official. Putting that into perspective, I guess I'm pretty blessed overall.
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What exactly is it about the "wholesale attitude of the organization" that bothers you so much? And if you're willing to concede an individual's right to prefer one game over the other, why do you struggle with the right of many likeminded individuals within a group to prefer one game over the other? And I'd like to know what you think about women officials who view working boys games as "moving up" from girls games? Does this bother you? Do you feel they are breaking ranks with the sisterhood? Do you defend this as their right to their own opinion? And what if a whole bunch of these women formed their own officials association, and as a group preferred working boys games? Would that just stick in your craw? And, in reality, what is different about talking about "moving up" from girls games as opposed to moving up from freshman games, moving up from small school games, moving up from high school games? Because in reality, it has nothing to do with the girls, it has to do with the basketball. It's often pretty boring. And what's this baloney with "just because it's always been done that way..."? Please quote me any post in this discussion where anybody has used that argument. It doesn't even make sense in this context. It sounds to me like you're draging in old bones from other arguments and trying to prove this is just another facet of the ongoing conspiracy to keep women down. Talk about unhealthy.
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My Two Cents ...
High school official for 27 years. Middle school girls coach for over 25 years. Parent of son who played recreation ball. Parent of a daughter who played high school varsity, helped her AAU team win an international gold medal in Spain, and is presently playing ball for her medical school in London, UK.
Maybe we're a little different here in Connecticut because of the small size of the state, with the state equally supporting both the University of Connecticut mens, and womens, basketball teams, but here's my two cents. At the highest scholastic level, boys ball is played above the rim. Girls ball is played below the rim. After 27 years, I believe that I can make this observation. With few exceptions, boys varsity games are viewed by a larger fan base, consisting of both student fans, and families of the players. Girls varsity games are, with few exceptions, viewed by mostly families of the players, with a smaller percentage of student fans. Most boys teams are supported by school cheerleaders. Most girls teams are not supported by cheerleaders. I find both boys games, and girls games, equally challanging, with exception of above the rim action. After doing a girls game, or a couple of girls games, followed by a boys game, I have to remind myself, as the trail, to watch above the rim for basket interference, and goaltending. I don't care if I get a girls varsity assignment, or a boys varsity assignment. On the other hand, I don't care if I get a small school varsity assignment, or a large school varsity assignment, boys, or girls. This past season, I didn't mind filling in for a junior varsity official who didn't show up, for a girls game. I just love officiating interscholastic basketball. Period. Last edited by BillyMac; Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 03:16am. |
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There was no top-down decision to make the boys games higher level assignments than the girls games (except in those few areas that assign three officials for boys games and two for girls games.)
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I was at a boys sectional the other night and the gym was not even half filled, conversely a few weeks ago a sectional girls game was sold out. I do however understand your point. |
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Not that there couldn't be some exceptions to BITS' point about attendance and intensity.
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After 5 pages I think I may be the only person on here that hasn't given their opinion. First of all, I think the original post would have been somewhat interesting as most of us are finished or finishing up for the season. To bad it took the turn it did.
I tried to voice an opinion on this thread but it all came out as ramblings. I personally think it is a ridiculous topic. What type and level of basketball you enjoy working and are comfortable working is your own opinion. The perception of what type of ball is more difficult is just that, a perception. Each has their own advantages and disadvantages. |
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