Making a call in your partners area.

[tomegun]

Jurassic, he is asking you to validate ball-watching - notice the "looking through" part. Actually that is what this subject is about most of the time. We all know there are plays where someone is blocked out and have no way of seeing an obvious play. We should also understand that Jurassic is talking about someone who is probably looking past players to watch the ball all the way on the other end of the court. There is a difference.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Jurassic, he is asking you to validate ball-watching - notice the "looking through" part. Actually that is what this subject is about most of the time. We all know there are plays where someone is blocked out and have no way of seeing an obvious play. We should also understand that Jurassic is talking about someone who is probably looking past players to watch the ball all the way on the other end of the court. There is a difference.

No, I don't think that Billy is asking me to validate ball watching. Unless I'm reading Billy wrong, and I sureasheck might be, he's talking about something that comes up in my field of vision outside of my primary but still within...say... a half-court that's so obvious that I gotta go get it. I agree with doing something like that. That's a big difference from ball watching.

Rumpy though now....he was looking for validation for ball watching in his example. Watching a dribbler under no pressure 70' down the court is ball-watching imo. I doubt very much whether I'd even notice something that far away--that's from one endline to the far foul line. And at that distance, I doubt that I could be 100% sure of anything that I noticed to ever warrant making a call anyway.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Watching a dribbler under no pressure 70' down the court is ball-watching imo. And at that distance, I doubt that I could be 100% sure of anything that I noticed to ever warrant making a call anyway.

Agree. When I do see something like the above situation, I frequently say (to myself) "If he can't call that from there, no way can I call it from here."

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

No, I don't think that Billy is asking me to validate ball watching. Unless I'm reading Billy wrong, and I sureasheck might be, he's talking about something that comes up in my field of vision outside of my primary but still within...say... a half-court that's so obvious that I gotta go get it. I agree with doing something like that. That's a big difference from ball watching.

Rumpy though now....he was looking for validation for ball watching in his example. Watching a dribbler under no pressure 70' down the court is ball-watching imo. I doubt very much whether I'd even notice something that far away--that's from one endline to the far foul line. And at that distance, I doubt that I could be 100% sure of anything that I noticed to ever warrant making a call anyway.

Forget it, JR. To some around here, making a call 18 inches outside of someone's primary is indicative of ball watching.

None of us have peripheral vision or ever focus on a competitive matchup in our primary that opens up our field of vision to see something near that matchup. It's all ball watching.

Would I notice an illegal dribble? Maybe, but I honestly wouldn't be prepared to blow on it as I expect my partner to handle a 1-on-1 matchup coming from the backcourt.